Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen | Lex Fridman Podcast #408

Last updated: Jan 10, 2024

The video is about a conversation between musician T Wilkenfeld and host Alex Fridman. Wilkenfeld talks about his experiences playing with legendary artists such as Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen, and how he approaches music with a focus on passion and expression rather than perfectionism. He also discusses the importance of being able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.

This video by Lex Fridman was published on Jan 9, 2024.
Video length: 01:50:09.

The video is about a conversation between musician T Wilkenfeld and host Alex Fridman.

Wilkenfeld is a singer-songwriter, bassist, guitarist, and true musician who has recorded and performed with many legendary artists, including Jeff Beck, Prince, Eric Clapton, and many more. The conversation covers Wilkenfeld's experiences playing with Jeff Beck at the 2007 Crossroads Festival and how he approached the performance with excitement and passion rather than fear. Wilkenfeld emphasizes the importance of being a generous and loving musician who is there for the music and not just themselves.

The conversation also touches on Wilkenfeld's audition for Jeff Beck's band and how he stepped up despite food poisoning.

* T Wilkenfeld is a singer-songwriter, bassist, guitarist, and true musician who has recorded and performed with many legendary artists including Jeff Beck, Prince, Eric Clapton, Incubus, Herby Hancock, MC Jagger, Jackson Brown, Rod Stewart, David Gilmore, Farel Hans Zimmer, and many more. * One of his most notable performances was at the 2007 Crossroads Festival where he played with Jeff Beck. * Wilkenfeld was excited and passionate about the performance and was confident in his abilities. * Jeff Beck was impressed with Wilkenfeld's playing and gave him a solo on one of his most well-known songs, "C V's Lovers." * Wilkenfeld's experience with food poisoning on the plane to the audition did not deter him from stepping up and performing with Jeff Beck. * Wilkenfeld approaches music with a focus on passion and expression rather than perfectionism. * He believes that fear can limit one's musical abilities and that it's important to differentiate from the body and the role of expression in music. * Wilkenfeld believes that being able to differentiate from the body and the role of expression in music is important in being able to play with passion and emotion. * He believes that different styles of music invite varying degrees of passion and emotion. * Wilkenfeld has been influenced by many legendary artists including Jeff Beck, Prince, Eric Clapton, Incubus, Herby Hancock, MC Jagger, Jackson Brown, Rod Stewart, David Gilmore, Farel Hans Zimmer, and many more. * He has recorded and performed with many of these artists. * Wilkenfeld has been influenced by the music of many different genres including rock, jazz, and blues. * He has been influenced by the music of many different artists from different eras and backgrounds. * Wilkenfeld has left a lasting impact on the music industry and has been recognized for his talent and has received many awards and accolades for his music. * He has been praised for his ability to differentiate from the body and the role of expression in music. * He has been praised for his ability to play with passion and emotion. * Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of embracing uncertainty and fear in music. * He describes how these emotions can enhance the overall expression of a performance. * Wilkenfeld also discusses the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities. * He gives examples of how fear can manifest in different ways, such as messing up a performance. * Wilkenfeld emphasizes that it is important to learn from these mistakes and continue playing, rather than letting fear hold you back. * Wilkenfeld talks about his experiences playing with legendary artists such as Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen. * He describes the unique challenges and opportunities that come with playing with such iconic musicians. * Wilkenfeld also discusses the importance of being able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities. * He gives examples of how he approached playing with these artists, focusing on passion and expression rather than perfectionism. * Wilkenfeld emphasizes the importance of being able to adapt to different musical environments and styles. * Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of passion and expression in music. * He describes how these qualities can enhance the overall impact of a performance. * Wilkenfeld also discusses the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities. * He gives examples of how he approaches playing with different artists, focusing on passion and expression rather than perfectionism. * Wilkenfeld emphasizes the importance of being able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities. * Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of adaptability in music. * He describes how being able to adapt to different musical environments and styles can enhance the overall impact of a performance. * Wilkenfeld also discusses the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities. * He gives examples of how he approaches playing with different artists, focusing on adaptability rather than perfectionism. * Wilkenfeld emphasizes the importance of being able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities. * Wilkenfeld talks about the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities. * He describes how fear can manifest in different ways, such as messing up a performance. * Wilkenfeld also discusses the importance of learning from these mistakes and continuing to play, rather than letting fear hold you back. * Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of confidence in music. * He explains that confidence is not always necessary, but trust is. * Wilkenfeld explains that trust is knowing that you can handle whatever comes your way. * He shares that trust is more of an open feeling, while confidence can be a brick wall. * Wilkenfeld mentions that fear can be a brick wall, but the chemistry between Jeff Beck and Wilkenfeld was not. * Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of trust in music. * He explains that trust is knowing that you can handle whatever comes your way. * Wilkenfeld shares that trust is more of an open feeling, while confidence can be a brick wall. * Wilkenfeld mentions that fear can be a brick wall, but the chemistry between Jeff Beck and Wilkenfeld was not. * Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of chemistry in music. * He explains that the chemistry between Jeff Beck and Wilkenfeld was not a brick wall. * Wilkenfeld mentions that trust and lack of fear were key factors in their chemistry.

Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen | Lex Fridman Podcast #408 - YouTube

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T Wilkenfeld's Music Career

  • T Wilkenfeld is a singer-songwriter, bassist, guitarist, and true musician who has recorded and performed with many legendary artists including Jeff Beck, Prince, Eric Clapton, Incubus, Herby Hancock, MC Jagger, Jackson Brown, Rod Stewart, David Gilmore, Farel Hans Zimmer, and many more.
  • One of his most notable performances was at the 2007 Crossroads Festival where he played with Jeff Beck.
  • Wilkenfeld was excited and passionate about the performance and was confident in his abilities.
  • Jeff Beck was impressed with Wilkenfeld's playing and gave him a solo on one of his most well-known songs, "C V's Lovers."
  • Wilkenfeld's experience with food poisoning on the plane to the audition did not deter him from stepping up and performing with Jeff Beck.
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Approach to Music

  • Wilkenfeld approaches music with a focus on passion and expression rather than perfectionism.
  • He believes that fear can limit one's musical abilities and that it's important to differentiate from the body and the role of expression in music.
  • Wilkenfeld believes that being able to differentiate from the body and the role of expression in music is important in being able to play with passion and emotion.
  • He believes that different styles of music invite varying degrees of passion and emotion.
  • Wilkenfeld believes that being able to differentiate from the body and the role of expression in music is important in being able to play with passion and emotion.
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Influences

  • Wilkenfeld has been influenced by many legendary artists including Jeff Beck, Prince, Eric Clapton, Incubus, Herby Hancock, MC Jagger, Jackson Brown, Rod Stewart, David Gilmore, Farel Hans Zimmer, and many more.
  • He has recorded and performed with many of these artists.
  • Wilkenfeld has been influenced by the music of many different genres including rock, jazz, and blues.
  • He has been influenced by the music of many different artists from different eras and backgrounds.
  • Wilkenfeld has been influenced by the music of many different artists from different eras and backgrounds.
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Legacy

  • Wilkenfeld has recorded and performed with many legendary artists and has left a lasting impact on the music industry.
  • He has been recognized for his talent and has received many awards and accolades for his music.
  • Wilkenfeld has been praised for his ability to differentiate from the body and the role of expression in music.
  • He has been praised for his ability to play with passion and emotion.
  • Wilkenfeld has been praised for his ability to play with passion and emotion.
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Uncertainty and Fear in Music

  • T Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of embracing uncertainty and fear in music.
  • He describes how these emotions can enhance the overall expression of a performance.
  • Wilkenfeld also discusses the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
  • He gives examples of how fear can manifest in different ways, such as messing up a performance.
  • Wilkenfeld emphasizes that it is important to learn from these mistakes and continue playing, rather than letting fear hold you back.
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Playing with Legends

  • T Wilkenfeld talks about his experiences playing with legendary artists such as Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen.
  • He describes the unique challenges and opportunities that come with playing with such iconic musicians.
  • Wilkenfeld also discusses the importance of being able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
  • He gives examples of how he approached playing with these artists, focusing on passion and expression rather than perfectionism.
  • Wilkenfeld emphasizes the importance of being able to adapt to different musical environments and styles.
Tal Wilkenfeld: Music, Guitar, Bass, Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen | Lex Fridman Podcast #408 008

The Role of Passion and Expression

  • T Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of passion and expression in music.
  • He describes how these qualities can enhance the overall impact of a performance.
  • Wilkenfeld also discusses the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
  • He gives examples of how he approaches playing with different artists, focusing on passion and expression rather than perfectionism.
  • Wilkenfeld emphasizes the importance of being able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
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The Importance of Adaptability

  • T Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of adaptability in music.
  • He describes how being able to adapt to different musical environments and styles can enhance the overall impact of a performance.
  • Wilkenfeld also discusses the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
  • He gives examples of how he approaches playing with different artists, focusing on adaptability rather than perfectionism.
  • Wilkenfeld emphasizes the importance of being able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
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The Role of Fear in Limiting Musical Abilities

  • T Wilkenfeld talks about the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
  • He describes how fear can manifest in different ways, such as messing up a performance.
  • Wilkenfeld also discusses the importance of learning from these mistakes and continuing to play, rather than letting fear hold you back.
  • He gives examples of how he approaches playing with different artists, focusing on passion and expression rather than perfectionism.
  • Wilkenfeld emphasizes the importance of being able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
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Talking about Confidence

  • Talked about the importance of confidence in music
  • Said that confidence is not always necessary, but trust is
  • Explained that trust is knowing that you can handle whatever comes your way
  • Shared that trust is more of an open feeling, while confidence can be a brick wall
  • Mentioned that fear can be a brick wall, but the chemistry between Jeff Beck and Wilkenfeld was not
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Talking about Trust

  • Explained that trust is knowing that you can handle whatever comes your way
  • Shared that trust is more of an open feeling, while confidence can be a brick wall
  • Mentioned that fear can be a brick wall, but the chemistry between Jeff Beck and Wilkenfeld was not
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Talking about Chemistry

  • Explained that the chemistry between Jeff Beck and Wilkenfeld was not a brick wall
  • Mentioned that trust and lack of fear were key factors in their chemistry
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Talking about Likes and Dislikes

  • Mentioned that each individual has developed likes and dislikes over their lifetime
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Talking Aesthetics

  • Talking about likes and dislikes with a musician
  • Trusting and open musicians on stage
  • Different choices in music leading to different feelings
  • Complimenting each other musically
  • Feeling at peace on stage in a meditative way
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Meditation

  • Meditating before shows or in general
  • Meditating with the band for at least 20 minutes
  • Not dictating what type of meditation to do
  • Connecting energetically and spiritually through meditation
  • Feeling connected and centered through meditation
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Grief and Loss

  • Going through a major grief period in 2016-2017
  • Feeling at peace with the process of grief
  • The death of Prince and Leonard Cohen causing deep grief
  • Feeling like a piece of oneself went missing after the deaths of Prince and Leonard Cohen
  • Staying in place and not wanting to play music after the deaths of Prince and Leonard Cohen
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Comedy and Spirituality

  • Going to The Comedy Store to get rid of all one's stuff
  • Connecting with comedians at The Comedy Store
  • Feeling a deep connection with Leonard Cohen spiritually
  • Feeling like a piece of oneself went missing after the deaths of Prince and Leonard Cohen
  • Staying in place and not wanting to play music after the deaths of Prince and Leonard Cohen
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Stand-up Comedy Experience

  • Took stand-up comedy class and met comedians who embraced him like family.
  • Made 25 best friends and rented out gear from a little room.
  • Wanted to be completely free and unplugged from responsibilities.
  • Connected deeply with grief and learned to laugh at anything.
  • Grieved the loss of musicians with comedians and learned a lot.
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Comedy Store and Musicians

  • Thought comedians and musicians are spiritually connected.
  • Personality-wise, comedians and musicians are quite different.
  • Observational humor is a common trait among comedians.
  • Great songwriters also notice everything and make people laugh.
  • Favorite comedians and songwriters are those who make people laugh.
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Jeff Beck's Death

  • Had a vintage Jazz bass but needed a 60s one for the tour.
  • Mike Dur from Green Day brought a truckload of old PAB and Jazz bases.
  • Found an Olympic White Jazz bass that was similar to Jeff Beck's.
  • Playing the bass brought goosebumps and started crying.
  • Mike Dur said Jeff might be happy about the bass and offered to loan it.
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Jeff Beck's Legacy

  • Feels more equipped to handle grief after Jeff Beck's death.
  • Played the Jeff Beck bass on the Incubus tour.
  • Jeff Beck's legacy continues to inspire musicians.
  • Comedians and musicians are connected in a deep fundamental way.
  • Personality-wise, comedians and musicians are quite different.
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T Wilkenfeld's Musical Experiences

  • T Wilkenfeld has played with legendary artists such as Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen.
  • He approaches music with a focus on passion and expression rather than perfectionism.
  • Wilkenfeld appreciates the ability to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
  • He enjoys going out and laughing, especially because it allows him to be in his heart and enjoy life.
  • Wilkenfeld has a birthday party with a crazy lineup, including Jackson Brown, Dave Chappelle, and a performance of Leonard Cohen's song "Chelsea Hotel."
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Leonard Cohen's Songwriting Inspiration

  • T Wilkenfeld considers Leonard Cohen a songwriting inspiration.
  • He appreciates the melancholy feeling, hopeful feeling, cocky feeling, and every single line of "Chelsea Hotel."
  • Wilkenfeld lived at the Chelsea Hotel and first met Leonard Cohen there.
  • The song "Chelsea Hotel" makes Wilkenfeld sad, especially the way it ends.
  • Wilkenfeld thinks that Cohen's advice to him was to look at a song the next morning, take a walk, smoke a joint, read it again, get drunk, wait a week, and read it again.
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Leonard Cohen's Song "Chelsea Hotel"

  • T Wilkenfeld loves the song "Chelsea Hotel" and appreciates every single line of it.
  • The song has a melancholy feeling, a hopeful feeling, and a cocky feeling.
  • Wilkenfeld lived at the Chelsea Hotel and first met Leonard Cohen there.
  • The song "Chelsea Hotel" makes Wilkenfeld sad, especially the way it ends.
  • Wilkenfeld thinks that Cohen's advice to him was to look at a song the next morning, take a walk, smoke a joint, read it again, get drunk, wait a week, and read it again.
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Leonard Cohen's Songwriting Process

  • Leonard Cohen's songwriting process is open and can be interpreted in different ways.
  • Wilkenfeld thinks that Cohen's advice to him was to look at a song the next morning, take a walk, smoke a joint, read it again, get drunk, wait a week, and read it again.
  • Wilkenfeld thinks that Cohen regretted putting the line "giving me head on the unmade bed" in the song, but it wasn't about regretting how great the line was.
  • Wilkenfeld thinks that Cohen regretted the indiscretion of the song being about Janice Joplin.
  • Wilkenfeld thinks that Cohen is known for rewriting his songs.
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T Wilkenfeld's Musical Experiences

  • T Wilkenfeld has played with legendary artists such as Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen.
  • He approaches music with a focus on passion and expression rather than perfectionism.
  • Wilkenfeld believes that being able to differentiate from the body is important in playing music.
  • He discusses the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
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Leonard Cohen's Lyrics and Live Shows

  • Cohen's lyrics often contain new words and phrases that he improvises on stage.
  • He is known for his ability to change lyrics on the fly and make them more meaningful.
  • Cohen's lyrics often contain powerful and emotional lines that resonate with audiences.
  • His lyrics are often seen as a reflection of his personal experiences and emotions.
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The Connection with Leonard Cohen

  • Wilkenfeld met Cohen in a rehearsal studio and connected with him over their shared love of music.
  • Cohen recognized Wilkenfeld's talent and invited him to perform with him.
  • Wilkenfeld's performance of "Hallelujah" was particularly meaningful to him and to Cohen.
  • Cohen's music has had a significant impact on Wilkenfeld's own music and career.
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The Role of Humor in Music

  • Wilkenfeld believes that there is a sense of humor to music and that it is often used to connect with audiences.
  • He believes that music can be used to express emotions and experiences in a way that is both powerful and relatable.
  • Wilkenfeld believes that music can be used to bring people together and create a sense of community.
  • He believes that music has the power to heal and uplift people.
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Loneliness

  • Loneliness is a product of feeling separate from the world and others.
  • The less you experience separation, the less you'll feel lonely.
  • There is a fundamental loneliness in the human experience.
  • All struggles and suffering are experienced alone.
  • Feeling alone in 2016 was different from losing a piece of oneself.
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Opening Yourself

  • Opening oneself to someone or something is not a lonely experience.
  • Giving a piece of oneself can lead to feeling lost.
  • Losing a piece of oneself can be different from losing attachments.
  • Being in an empty hotel room with no attachments can be healing.
  • Being on tour can be a great feeling.
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Meditation and Retreats

  • Meditation can be a way to sit with oneself and be present.
  • Going on a meditation retreat can be a way to connect with others.
  • Integrating spiral dynamics into zen can be a cool combination.
  • Ken Wilbur's integral theory is a way to understand everything as integrated.
  • Everything is one and everything is integrated in the human experience.
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The Role of Self-Realization in Music

  • T Wilkenfeld talks about his experiences playing with legendary artists such as Jeff Beck, Prince, and Leonard Cohen.
  • He discusses the importance of being able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting one's musical abilities.
  • Wilkenfeld approaches music with a focus on passion and expression rather than perfectionism.
  • He talks about levels of development in consciousness and how they apply to every religion or non-religion.
  • There are self-actualized beings from all walks of life with very different paths, and there is a way to be self-realized and self-actualized.
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The Integration of Different Paths

  • Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of integrating different paths in meditation, such as guided meditations and silent sits.
  • He has tried a lot of different avenues and they are all great, so he would not just say just try this one thing.
  • He has studied the upanishads, Vidant teaches, and gone through those texts for months and stayed at monasteries.
  • He resonates with the inner knowing of the texts, which is more important than the mind.
  • He has lived in a monastery and found it to be the best way to understand what they are talking about.
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The Role of the Body in Meditation

  • Wilkenfeld talks about the importance of being aware of the body in meditation.
  • He has experienced purging of the body in meditation, but he does not necessarily have the answers as to what is happening.
  • He thinks for someone like him, who is analytical, both complete uncertainty and complete discipline are necessary.
  • He has found that being in a place where there is complete uncertainty but complete discipline is helpful for him.
  • He has found that the regimented thing is necessary for him to be able to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting his musical abilities.
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The Role of Meditation in Music

  • Wilkenfeld talks about how meditation has helped him to be self-realized and self-actualized.
  • He has found that the answer to his questions is based on his knowledge of meditation.
  • He has found that meditation has helped him to differentiate from the body and the role of fear in limiting his musical abilities.
  • He has found that meditation has helped him to approach music with a focus on passion and expression rather than perfectionism.
  • He has found that meditation has helped him to understand the levels of development in consciousness and how they apply to every religion or non-religion.
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Understanding the Body

  • T Wilkenfeld discusses the concept of the gross and subtle body.
  • He wants to understand what it means to be human.
  • Sitting with oneself is an important part of this understanding.
  • Facing one's demons is a crucial part of this process.
  • There are things that happen on the other side of facing one's demons that are profound.
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Songwriting

  • T Wilkenfeld is primarily a songwriter, not just a bassist.
  • He writes a variety of love songs, including brokenhearted ones and hopeful ones.
  • His songs often combine personal experience with elements from movies or other sources.
  • The last album he put out was a combination of pain and storytelling.
  • He loves songs that are not specifically about romantic love or other particular themes.
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Leonard Cohen

  • T Wilkenfeld loves many Leonard Cohen songs.
  • He appreciates the many ways to interpret these songs.
  • He had a conversation with Eric Weinstein about the song "Wonderful Tonight" by Eric Clapton.
  • Eric Weinstein explained that the song is actually a man missing his wife.
  • T Wilkenfeld has not played music with Eric Weinstein, but they have had long conversations about music and other topics.
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Practicing Music

  • T Wilkenfeld learned how to practice in his head because he only had 30 minutes to practice.
  • He read that the call train also practiced in his head because he did not have much time to practice.
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Learning to Play Guitar

  • T Wilkenfeld grew up in an environment focused on academia.
  • He fell in love with guitar and wanted to focus on it.
  • His limit was 30 minutes a day for practice, which he did every day or five days a week.
  • His parents didn't want him to play more than that.
  • He learned to visualize the fretboard in his head and practiced all day in his head.
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Practicing in the Mind

  • T Wilkenfeld recommends practicing in the mind to every musician.
  • If you're just practicing with an instrument, you don't know what is more dominant, your motor skills or your brain.
  • He learned how to do this and found it helpful for learning fast.
  • He practiced in bursts, playing for a couple of minutes and then stopping for a minute before repeating.
  • He noticed a huge difference between the first time and the second time he practiced in this way.
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