Israel/Palestine: The History and What’s Real? Opposing Views with Norman Finkelstein and David Brog

The video is about the Israel/Palestine conflict and features two guests, David Brog and Norman Finkelstein, who provide their perspectives on the issue. Mikhaila Peterson, the host, speaks to both guests and provides her own thoughts on the topic. The video covers the history of the conflict and the current situation, with a focus on the perspectives of both sides.

This video by Mikhaila Peterson was published on Oct 20, 2023.
Video length: 02:13:12.

In this video, Mikhaila Peterson interviews David Brog and Norman Finkelstein to discuss the Israel/Palestine conflict.

The video is divided into two parts, with each guest providing their perspective on the conflict. In the first part, David Brog discusses the historical events that led to the conflict and the current situation from an Israeli perspective. In the second part, Norman Finkelstein discusses the same events from a Palestinian perspective.

The video is intended to provide an opposing views format, allowing viewers to hear both sides of the conflict and make their own informed decisions.

• The video is about the Israel/Palestine conflict and features two guests, David Brog and Norman Finkelstein, who provide their perspectives on the issue.
• Mikhaila Peterson, the host, speaks to both guests and provides her own thoughts on the topic.
• The video covers the history of the conflict and the current situation, with a focus on the perspectives of both sides.
• Mikhaila Peterson states that she is not the person to go to to get wisdom on the Israel/Palestine conflict.
• She states that her opinion should not really matter to people because she does not have the historical knowledge needed to have an intelligent perspective on what's going on.
• She states that she knows what she's read and seen online but she does not know how skewed that is in either direction or how much of it is straight up propaganda.
• She states that she has a platform, but that does not mean she's an expert on the newest topic.
• She states that she only has a few days to figure out what's going on and that the situation is horrible, with people being really hurting and very angry all over the world.
• David Brog spoke about the current and historical events that led to the Israel/Palestine conflict.

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Introduction

• The video is about the Israel/Palestine conflict and features two guests, David Brog and Norman Finkelstein, who provide their perspectives on the issue.
• Mikhaila Peterson, the host, speaks to both guests and provides her own thoughts on the topic.
• The video covers the history of the conflict and the current situation, with a focus on the perspectives of both sides.

Mikhaila Peterson's Perspective

• Mikhaila Peterson states that she is not the person to go to to get wisdom on the Israel/Palestine conflict.
• She states that her opinion should not really matter to people because she does not have the historical knowledge needed to have an intelligent perspective on what's going on.
• She states that she knows what she's read and seen online but she does not know how skewed that is in either direction or how much of it is straight up propaganda.
• She states that she has a platform, but that does not mean she's an expert on the newest topic.
• She states that she only has a few days to figure out what's going on and that the situation is horrible, with people being really hurting and very angry all over the world.

David Brog's Perspective

• David Brog spoke about the current and historical events that led to the Israel/Palestine conflict.
• He spoke about the Israeli perspective on the conflict.
• He spoke about the Israeli government's actions and decisions related to the conflict.
• He spoke about the Israeli military's actions and decisions related to the conflict.
• He spoke about the Israeli people's perspective on the conflict.

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Norman Finkelstein's Perspective

• Norman Finkelstein spoke about the same events from a different perspective.
• He spoke about the Palestinian perspective on the conflict.
• He spoke about the Palestinian government's actions and decisions related to the conflict.
• He spoke about the Palestinian military's actions and decisions related to the conflict.
• He spoke about the Palestinian people's perspective on the conflict.

Mikhaila Peterson's Understanding of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

• Mikhaila Peterson's understanding of the Israel/Palestine conflict was around 52%.
• The conflict began with the Jewish majority in Jerusalem and the offer to give it to the Jewish state, but the offer was rejected by the Palestinian leaders.
• The Palestinian national movement has been dominated by three leaders who were violent rejectionists and refused to compromise.
• The current situation for Hamas is that they claim to be freedom fighters fighting against Israeli power, but their story is that they are fighting back against the Israeli power that is slowly forcing them into smaller and smaller areas.
• Palestinians rarely take responsibility for their mistakes and the decisions their leaders made, and they continue to complain about the map and the situation in Gaza.

The History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

• The conflict began in the mid-1800s when Jerusalem had a Jewish majority.
• The Jewish state was not given to the Jewish people, which could have ended the conflict.
• There have been Palestinians who wanted peace and compromise, but they were not in positions of leadership.
• The Palestinian national movement has been dominated by three leaders who were violent rejectionists and refused to compromise.
• The current situation for Hamas is that they claim to be freedom fighters fighting against Israeli power, but their story is that they are fighting back against the Israeli power that is slowly forcing them into smaller and smaller areas.

The Current Situation in the Israel/Palestine Conflict

• The current situation for Hamas is that they claim to be freedom fighters fighting against Israeli power, but their story is that they are fighting back against the Israeli power that is slowly forcing them into smaller and smaller areas.
• The Palestinian side is claiming that they are fighting back against Israeli power that is slowly forcing them into smaller and smaller areas.
• The Palestinian side is claiming that they are freedom fighters, but their story is that they are fighting back against the Israeli power that is slowly forcing them into smaller and smaller areas.
• The Palestinian side is claiming that they are fighting back against the Israeli power that is slowly forcing them into smaller and smaller areas.
• The Palestinian side is claiming that they are fighting back against the Israeli power that is slowly forcing them into smaller and smaller areas.

The Role of Leadership in the Israel/Palestine Conflict

• The Palestinian national movement has been dominated by three leaders who were violent rejectionists and refused to compromise.
• The Palestinian national movement has been dominated by three leaders who were violent rejectionists and refused to compromise.
• The Palestinian national movement has been dominated by three leaders who were violent rejectionists and refused to compromise.
• The Palestinian national movement has been dominated by three leaders who were violent rejectionists and refused to compromise.
• The Palestinian national movement has been dominated by three leaders who were violent rejectionists and refused to compromise.

The History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

• The highest years of Jewish immigration to Israel were from 1914 to 1930, with 37,000 Jews returning to the country.
• The Arab population of Palestine grew dramatically during this period, but only in areas where Jews were returning.
• The Jews were creating economic opportunities in Palestine, which attracted Arabs to the region.
• There was a clear pattern of offer and rejection by Jews and Arabs, with the Jews repeatedly proposing a state and the Arabs rejecting it.
• Israel was attacked in 1948, and the Palestinian Arabs started the war, but neighboring Arab countries joined in and announced a war of annihilation.

The Creation of Israel

• Israel was created in 1948, after the Arab rejection of a state and the attack on Israel.
• Egypt conquered Gaza, and Jordan conquered the West Bank, but they did not create a Palestinian state.
• In 1967, Israel defended itself in an effort to destroy Israel again, and took control of Gaza and the West Bank.
• The Palestinians started to feel that they were a separate people and called themselves Palestinians after Israel liberated the land from Jordan and Egypt in 1967.
• The Israeli cabinet split, with half saying to give the West Bank back to Jordan in exchange for peace, and the other half saying to give it to the Arabs who actually lived there.

The Arab League and the Infamous Tinos

• The Arab League met in Khartoum, Sudan, and issued its infamous "No peace with Israel, no negotiation with Israel, no recognition of Israel" statement.
• The same Palestinian interlocutors got back to Israel and said the Arab League had spoken, and they could not talk to Israel.
• Israel stayed in control of the land until another peace effort was made in 2000, when the Palestinian Authority was given autonomy in the West Bank and Gaza.
• The Palestinian Authority ruled in Gaza until Hamas staged a bloody coup and took over the region.
• The two pieces of land that were proposed as a Palestinian state could have been a Palestinian state, but it was rejected by the Palestinians repeatedly.

The History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

• The Israel/Palestine conflict is a long-standing political and territorial dispute between Israel and Palestine.
• Israel was established in 1948, and Palestine was divided into two parts: the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
• The West Bank is under the control of the Palestinian Authority, while Gaza is under the control of Hamas.
• Israel and Palestine have had a history of conflict, with Israel accusing Palestine of terrorism and Palestine accusing Israel of human rights violations.
• The conflict has its roots in the displacement of Palestinians during the establishment of Israel, as well as ongoing disputes over land and resources.

The Current Situation

• The current situation in Israel/Palestine is complex and multifaceted, with ongoing disputes over land, resources, and security.
• Israel has accused Palestine of terrorism, citing attacks on Israeli civilians and military targets.
• Palestine has accused Israel of human rights violations, citing the displacement of Palestinians and ongoing settlement building in the West Bank.
• The international community has played a role in the conflict, with the United Nations and other organizations working to negotiate a peaceful resolution.
• The situation has been marked by violence and instability, with ongoing clashes between Israeli forces and Palestinian militants.

The Perspectives of David Brog and Norman Finkelstein

• David Brog is a pro-Israel advocate who argues that Israel has the right to defend itself against terrorism and protect its citizens.
• Norman Finkelstein is a critic of Israel who argues that Israel's actions are illegal and violate international law.
• Brog argues that Hamas is responsible for the violence in Gaza and that Israel has the right to defend itself against attacks.
• Finkelstein argues that Israel's actions are a violation of international law and that Palestine has the right to self-determination.
• Brog and Finkelstein have different perspectives on the conflict, with Brog arguing for a strong Israeli presence in the region and Finkelstein arguing for a more peaceful resolution.

Mikhaila Peterson's Perspective

• Mikhaila Peterson, the host of the video, has her own perspective on the conflict.
• She argues that both sides have made mistakes and that a peaceful resolution is necessary.
• Peterson believes that Israel has the right to defend itself against terrorism, but also argues that it needs to be more careful in its actions.
• She also believes that Palestine has the right to self-determination, but argues that it needs to work towards a peaceful resolution.
• Peterson believes that the international community needs to play a more active role in negotiating a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

The Israel/Palestine Conflict

• The Israel/Palestine conflict is a complex and ongoing issue with a long history of violence and conflict.
• Israel has been accused of committing human rights abuses against Palestinians, including the intentional slaughter, rape, and decapitation of over 1000 Israelis by Hamas.
• Hamas is now operating from civilian areas and hiding in civilian areas, and when Israel warned civilians to leave North Gaza, Hamas told them not to leave.
• The conflict has resulted in the deaths of civilians on both sides, and many people are quick to blame Israel without considering the provocation and intentional actions of Hamas.
• The conflict has also led to a lack of trust and understanding between the two sides, as well as a lack of historical and firsthand perspective.

Hamas's Actions

• Hamas is filled with bomb shelters and a network of safe tunnels under

  Israel's Security Measures

  • Israel's blockade of Gaza was not the cause of Hamas terrorism, but rather the effect of it.
  • Israel's security fence around the West Bank was not the cause of unhappiness in the West Bank, but rather a response to terrorism.
  • The border between Israel and the West Bank was more open than the border between the United States and Canada.
  • Israelis went into the Palestinian territories to shop, eat, and go to the dentist, which were less expensive in the West Bank.
  • Israel built the fence to stop suicide bombers from coming in and blowing up its civilians.

  The Tragedy of the Middle East

  • None of the current situation in the Middle East had to be there, and a very different Middle East could have emerged.
  • Hundreds of thousands of Arabs streamed into Palestine to be closer to Jewish cities with Jewish economic opportunities.
  • Jewish businesses, Arab labor, and Jewish investors could have created a wonderful new country.
  • Instead, Palestinians got leaders determined to reject the Jewish presence, reject peace with the Jews, and insist on Wars of annihilation.
  • Gaza used to have an open border with Israel, and hundreds of thousands of Gazans used to work in Israel and there were better wages in Israel than Gaza.

  The Role of Hamas

  • Hamas terrorism forced Israel's hand and led to the construction of the security fence.
  • Hamas is a terrorist organization that attacks Israel and fires missiles into Israel.
  • Israel is allowed to defend itself from Hamas under international law.
  • Hamas took over Gaza and started using it to attack Israel.
  • Israel did not create the blockade on Gaza, but rather it was put in place to protect its citizens from Hamas.

  The Role of International Law

  • International laws of war recognize that sometimes civilian casualties occur in the process of defending oneself from a terrorist entity.
  • Israel's actions in defending itself from Hamas are allowed under international law.
  • Israel's blockade of Gaza was not the cause of Hamas terrorism, but rather the effect of it.
  • Israel's security fence around the West Bank was not the cause of unhappiness in the West Bank, but rather a response to terrorism.
  • The border between Israel and the West Bank was more open than the border between the United States and Canada.

  The History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

  • The Israel/Palestine conflict is a long-standing dispute between Israel and Palestine over the land and resources in the Middle East.
  • The conflict has its roots in the early 20th century, when Jewish immigrants began to move to the region and established settlements.
  • In 1948, Israel declared independence and was recognized by the international community, but this led to the displacement of many Palestinians.
  • Since then, there have been numerous conflicts and skirmishes between Israel and Palestine, including the Six-Day War in 1967 and the ongoing construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

  The Current Situation

  • The current situation in Israel/Palestine is complex and multifaceted, with ongoing tensions between the two sides.
  • There have been recent incidents of violence, including rocket attacks from Gaza and clashes in Jerusalem.
  • The international community has been involved in efforts to resolve the conflict, including the Oslo Accords and the Quartet's Roadmap.
  • However, progress towards a peaceful resolution has been slow, and many people on both sides continue to hold strong and opposing views.

  The Perspectives of David Brog and Norman Finkelstein

  • David Brog is a pro-Israel advocate and the Executive Director of the American Jewish Committee.
  • He argues that Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish homeland and that the Palestinians should accept this fact.
  • He also believes that the international community should support Israel in its efforts to defend itself against terrorism and other threats.
  • Norman Finkelstein is a critic of Israel and its policies, particularly its treatment of Palestinians.
  • He argues that Israel's actions are a violation of international law and that the Palestinians have the right to self-determination.

  Mikhaila Peterson's Thoughts

  • Mikhaila Peterson, the host of the video, speaks to both David Brog and Norman Finkelstein and provides her own thoughts on the issue.
  • She argues that the conflict is complex and that both sides have valid points.
  • She also believes that the international community should be more involved in finding a peaceful resolution to the conflict.
  • Overall, she emphasizes the importance of understanding the history and context of the conflict in order to find a solution.

  History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

  • Jews have been living in the region for over 500 years, making them the majority until 1000.
  • Local rulers allowed Jews to return to the region, and when Jews started streaming back in the latest wave, they reached out to the King of Jordan.
  • The King of Jordan, King Abdullah, embraced the idea of Jews and Arabs joining hands to build a new Middle East, but this was put on ice after a violent rejection by Palestinian leaders.
  • The Abraham Accords were seen as a way to take out the idea of Jews and Arabs joining hands to build a new Middle East from the freezer.
  • The Abraham Accords were successful in bringing together countries in the region to solve problems, such as too little water and too few jobs.

  The New Middle East

  • The idea of a new Middle East was to bring together Jews and Arabs as brothers and kindred spirits.
  • The new Middle East was seen as a way to solve problems in the region, such as too little water and too few jobs.
  • However, there are those in the region who don't want to see peace, cooperation, or coexistence.
  • Hamas, an Iran client, is one of the groups that doesn't want to see peace in the region.
  • Iran is afraid of peace in the region and wants to destroy Israel and Saudi Arabia.

  The Abraham Accords

  • The Abraham Accords were seen as a way to bring together countries in the region to solve problems.
  • The Abraham Accords were successful in bringing together countries in the region to solve problems, such as too little water and too few jobs.
  • However, the new Middle East was put on hold after a violent rejection by Palestinian leaders.
  • Iran is afraid of peace in the region and wants to destroy Israel and Saudi Arabia.
  • The Abraham Accords were seen as a way to take out the idea of Jews and Arabs joining hands to build a new Middle East from the freezer.

  The Current Situation

  • The current situation in the region is that there are those who don't want to see peace, cooperation, or coexistence.
  • Hamas, an Iran client, is one of the groups that doesn't want to see peace in the region.
  • Iran is afraid of peace in the region and wants to destroy Israel and Saudi Arabia.
  • The Abraham Accords were seen as a way to bring together countries in the region to solve problems, such as too little water and too few jobs.
  • The Abraham Accords were successful in bringing together countries in the region to solve problems, but the new Middle East was put on hold after a violent rejection by Palestinian leaders.

  Israel's Blockade of Gaza

  • Israel blockaded Gaza in response to Hamas using Gaza to launch terror attacks against Israel.
  • Israel has killed civilians in Gaza due to its provocation, but it cannot target guilty parties perfectly because Hamas hides among the innocent.
  • The context is key, and anyone who comes with a complaint about Israel should look behind it to find the driving force behind the conflict.
  • The tragic leadership of the Palestinians is the driving force behind the conflict, as they are bent on stopping peace at any cost, including terrorism.
  • The Abraham Accords were organized under the Trump Administration, but it was not finalized due to the hostage situation of the Arabs in Palestine.

  The Finalization of the Abraham Accords

  • The Arab world was hostage to the Palestinian leadership, which was not interested in peace and compromise.
  • The Arab world was afraid to make peace with Israel due to the fear of being accused of betraying or abandoning the Palestinian cause.
  • After years of rejection of offers and resorting to terrorism, many leaders of the Arab world got tired of the Palestinian leadership.
  • Finally, they said yes to making peace with Israel and joining hands with Israel because it is ultimately governments' responsibility to their own people and their safety and prosperity.
  • Iran is the fear that helped them overcome any fear of being accused of abandoning the Palestinians to say no.

  Iran's Role in the Conflict

  • Iran is the only grievance that Iran has with Israel is its very existence.
  • Iran needs Israel and gave Hamas the order to launch attacks if war breaks out with Israel.
  • Iran is the overriding geostrategic goal of dominating the region and destroying Israel.
  • Iran is the one who armed Hamas and gave Hamas the order to launch attacks if war breaks out with Israel.
  • Iran is the direct order from Iran as an overriding geostrategic goal of dominating the region and destroying Israel.

  Palestinian Leadership and the Conflict

  • The tragic leadership of the Palestinians is the driving force behind the conflict, as they are bent on stopping peace at any cost, including terrorism.
  • The only grievance that Iran has with Israel is its very existence.
  • Iran needs Israel and gave Hamas the order to launch attacks if war breaks out with Israel.
  • Iran is the overriding geostrategic goal of dominating the region and destroying Israel.
  • Iran is the direct order from Iran as an overriding geostrategic goal of dominating the region and destroying Israel.

  The History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

  • The Israel/Palestine conflict has a long history dating back to the early 20th century.
  • The conflict began with the Zionist movement, which aimed to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
  • In 1948, Israel declared independence and was immediately attacked by neighboring Arab countries.
  • The war resulted in the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, who were forced to flee their homes.
  • Since then, there have been numerous conflicts and disputes between Israel and Palestine, including ongoing territorial disputes and claims to the land.

  The Current Situation

  • Today, Israel controls the West Bank and Gaza Strip, which are the areas where the majority of Palestinians live.
  • Israel has been accused of human rights abuses, including the construction of settlements in the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza.
  • Palestinians have been calling for their right to self-determination and the establishment of their own state.
  • The international community has been involved in various peace negotiations and efforts to resolve the conflict.
  • Despite these efforts, the conflict remains unresolved, and tensions between Israel and Palestine continue to escalate.

  The Perspectives of David Brog and Norman Finkelstein

  • David Brog is a pro-Israel advocate who argues that Israel has the right to defend itself and that the Palestinians are responsible for their own suffering.
  • Norman Finkelstein is a critic of Israel who argues that Israel's actions are illegal and that the Palestinians have the right to self-determination.
  • Brog argues that the Palestinians are responsible for their own suffering because they have been attacking Israel for decades.
  • Finkelstein argues that Israel's actions are illegal because they are violating international law and the rights of the Palestinian people.
  • Brog argues that the international community should support Israel's actions because they are necessary for its survival.

  Mikhaila Peterson's Perspective

  • Mikhaila Peterson, the host of the video, argues that the conflict is complex and that both sides have valid points.
  • She argues that the Palestinians have the right to self-determination and that Israel has the right to defend itself.
  • She argues that the international community should work towards finding a peaceful solution to the conflict.
  • She argues that the conflict is not just about Israel and Palestine, but also about the larger issue of human rights and self-determination.
  • She argues that the international community should work towards finding a solution that respects the rights of both sides and promotes peace and stability in the region.

  Introduction

  • The video is about the Israel/Palestine conflict and features two guests, David Brog and Norman Finkelstein, who provide their perspectives on the issue.
  • Mikhaila Peterson, the host, speaks to both guests and provides her own thoughts on the topic.
  • The video covers the history of the conflict and the current situation, with a focus on the perspectives of both sides.

  The Narrative

  • The Western imagination sees the Palestinians as victims of a settler colonial genocidal Israeli regime.
  • If this narrative were true, Mikhaila would be protesting Israel too.
  • However, the reality of Israel is starkly at odds with the anti-Israel narrative.
  • The trip to Israel and the Palestinian Authority changes people's perspectives and helps them understand the humanity of one another.

  The Dream

  • The Zionist dream is to build a more dynamic and prosperous Middle East where Jews and Arabs are not enemies.
  • The dream has been tasted during the Abraham Accords but extremists and violent extremists have killed it.
  • The only hope for the future is that the dream will live on and Israel will defend itself and dismantle Hamas.
  • The day when the Palestinians may get leaders who don't want to murder and destroy Israel but actually want to build Palestine is the day there will be peace and prosperity.

  The Background

  • The conflict between the indigenous Arab population and the Zionist Jewish settlers was thrown into the hands of the newly created United Nations.
  • The UN was responsible for working out a resolution to the conflict, not necessarily applying the highest principles of justice but trying to combine principles of justice with practicality.
  • The United Nations General Assembly divided Palestine into two in UN resolution 181, proposing that Palestine be divided into an Arab state and a Jewish state.
  • The conflict between the indigenous Arab population and the Zionist Jewish settlers began in 1948.

  The Partition of Palestine

  • The Arab state which would compromise approximately 44% of Palestine and a Jewish state which would compromise approximately 56% of Palestine on the Arab side did not accept that recommendation for two main reasons.
  • The indigenous population and their rights should have priority.
  • The division did not remotely correlate with the demographic balance in Palestine.
  • The 600,000 Jews were allocated 56% of Palestine, while the Palestinian Arabs were allocated 44%.
  • The conflict then ensued, known as the first Arab Israeli War, in which neighboring Arab states also intervened.

  Israel's Creation

  • Israel absorbed not the 56% that was allocated in the partition resolution of 181, but they absorbed 80% of Palestine.
  • Two areas were not absorbed by Israel: the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.
  • Israel expelled about 90% of the population within the borders that became Israel, of which 750,000 were Indians who were expelled from the area that became Israel.
  • The population of Gaza was swamped by the refugees who were expelled in 1948.
  • Today, the refugees and their descendants constitute approximately 7% of the population of Gaza.

  The Second Great Exodus

  • In 1967, there was another war between Israel and the neighboring Arab states.
  • During this war, about 300,000 Palestinians were expelled from the areas that Israel now counts as conquered.
  • The areas Israel now counts as conquered were the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.
  • In 1900, Palestine was the population was about 90% Palestinian Arab.
  • In 1947, the population was about 80% Palestinian Arab.

  History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

  • The conflict between Israel and Palestine began in 1947, when the United Nations partitioned Palestine into an Arab state and a Jewish state.
  • Israel controlled 80% of Palestine after the June 1967 war, and now controls all of it.
  • The whole of Palestine had come under Israeli control by the end of the war of 1948.
  • Israel acquired the West Bank, Gaza, Egyptian Sinai, Assyrian Golan Heights in the course of a war.
  • Under international law, Israel has no title to those territories.

  UN Resolution 242

  • UN resolution 242 is based on principles of international law and the UN Charter.
  • The first principle of UN resolution 242 is that it's inadmissible to conquer territory by war.
  • Israel acquired the West Bank, Gaza, Egyptian Sinai, Assyrian Golan Heights in the course of a war.
  • Israel has no title to those territories according to international law and UN principles.
  • The second prong of UN resolution 242 is that Israel as a state had the right under the UN Charter to live at peace with its neighbors.

  Land for Peace Solution

  • The land for peace solution to the conflict is based on the idea that Israel had to relinquish control of the West Bank and Gaza in order to achieve peace with its neighbors.
  • The Egyptian dimension with the Sinai desert, the Syrian dimension with the Golan Heights, and the Palestinian/Israeli dimension are all part of the conflict.
  • The most recent events have brought the focus to the Palestinian/Israeli dimension of the conflict.
  • The UN resolution 242 is the most famous resolution in the United Nations history.
  • The essence of UN resolution 242 is very simple, it's based on principles of international law and the UN Charter.

  Guest Perspectives

  • David Brog, a pro-Israel advocate, argues that Israel has a right to the land and that the Palestinians should accept a two-state solution.
  • Norman Finkelstein, a critic of Israel, argues that Israel's actions are illegal and that the Palestinians have a right to their land.
  • Mikhaila Peterson, the host, argues that the conflict is complex and that both sides have valid points.

  The History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

  • The Israel/Palestine conflict began in 1948, when the United Nations allocated 56% of Palestine to Israel.
  • Israel conquered 80% of Palestine, and by holding onto it, the International Community eventually accepted the Israeli state as complete.
  • After the 1967 war, Israel was determined not to relinquish control over a large part of the territory.
  • The Palestinians were obliged to recognize Israel as a legal state and a member of the United Nations.
  • The terms of UN resolution 242 were very straightforward, requiring Israel to withdraw from all the Palestinian territories it acquired during the 1967 war.

  The Current Situation

  • The question now becomes which side has been the obstacle to settling the conflict.
  • The Palestinians accepted the terms of UN resolution 242, but Israel was not prepared to relinquish control over the territories.
  • The Palestinians' attitude after 1967 was the same as their attitude after 1948.
  • The International Community eventually accepted the Israeli state as complete, with the expectation that Israel could retain control over the whole of what they call the land of Israel.
  • In 1982, Israel faced a big problem with the Palestinian peace offensive, when the PLO was determined to gain recognition and support from the International Community.

  The Perspectives of the Two Guests

  • David Brog, a pro-Israel advocate, believes that the Palestinians have been the obstacle to settling the conflict.
  • Norman Finkelstein, a critic of Israel, believes that Israel has been the obstacle to settling the conflict.
  • Brog argues that the Palestinians have not been willing to accept a two-state solution and have instead been pushing for a one-state solution.
  • Finkelstein argues that Israel has been unwilling to accept a two-state solution and has instead been pushing for a one-state solution.
  • Brog believes that the Palestinians have been responsible for the violence and instability in the region.

  Mikhaila Peterson's Thoughts

  • Mikhaila Peterson believes that both sides have been responsible for the conflict.
  • She argues that the Palestinians have not been willing to accept a two-state solution, but also believes that Israel has not been willing to accept a two-state solution.
  • Peterson believes that the conflict is rooted in historical and cultural factors, rather than just political issues.
  • She argues that both sides have been unwilling to compromise and that a one-state solution is not a viable option.
  • Peterson believes that the conflict can only be resolved through a combination of political, economic, and cultural solutions.

  The 1982 Lebanon War

  • The 1982 Lebanon War, also known as the First Lebanon War, was a conflict between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in Lebanon.
  • Israel launched the war and killed roughly 15 to 20,000 Palestinians and Lebanese, mostly civilians.
  • The Israeli Death rate back in 1982 was actually much higher than any of the recent Israeli assaults on Gaza or any of the recent Israeli conflicts with its neighbors after the 1982 War.
  • The Palestinians were defeated in the course of that war, with 20,000 Palestinian and Israeli casualties, mostly civilians.
  • The PLO went into exile in Tunis after the war.

  The Civil Revolt in Gaza and the West Bank

  • In 1987, the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank went into civil revolt, overwhelmingly nonviolent.
  • It was called the first intifada, a civil nonviolent civil revolt.
  • The first intifada was a response to Israel's exertion of violent force and suffered a defeat.
  • The defeat of the first intifada climaxed in what came to be called the Oslo Accord.
  • The essence of the Oslo Accord was that the Palestinians were not granted a state or even the right to a state.

  The Oslo Accord

  • The Oslo Accord was signed between the Israeli Prime Minister Yak Rabin and the head of the PLO, Yaser Arafat, and was presided over by US President Bill Clinton.
  • The Oslo Accord was a political reality, not a written Accord.
  • The Palestinians were not granted a state or even the right to a state under the Oslo Accord.
  • The Oslo Accord was a five-year interim period that was to climax in a final status agreement.
  • The essence of the Oslo Accord was that it was a temporary solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

  The Oslo Accords

  • The Oslo Accords were a series of agreements signed in 1993 between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) aimed at resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
  • The agreements were intended to establish a framework for peace negotiations and the eventual establishment of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
  • However, the implementation of the agreements was slow and uneven, with Israel continuing to annex territory in the West Bank and confiscate land from Palestinians.
  • The situation deteriorated in 2000 when a new uprising occurred in the occupied Palestinian territories, which was met with violent force from Israel.
  • The violence continued for several weeks, with a kill ratio of about 20 Palestinians to one Israeli during that time.

  The Second Intifada

  • The Second Intifada was a Palestinian uprising that occurred in 2000 in response to Israel's actions in the occupied territories.
  • The uprising was overwhelmingly nonviolent, but Israel responded with maximum force to repress it.
  • The violence quickly spun out of control, with both sides suffering casualties.
  • The kill ratio during the first three weeks of the uprising was about 20 Palestinians to one Israeli.
  • The uprising had a significant impact on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and led to increased tensions between the two sides.

  The Hamas Leader

  • The speaker met with the head of Hamas, a Palestinian militant group, during the Second Intifada.
  • The Hamas leader lived in a simple, humble home that resembled a tenement from the 1930s.
  • The speaker asked the Hamas leader about the situation and was told that it had already become very violent on both sides.
  • The Hamas leader did not express a clear opinion on whether the uprising was the right course of action.
  • The speaker did not provide any further details about the conversation with the Hamas leader.

  The Israeli Response

  • Israel responded to the Second Intifada with maximum force, using violent force to repress the uprising.
  • Israel fired approximately 1 million rounds of ammunition in the first few days of the uprising.
  • The violence quickly spun out of control, with both sides suffering casualties.
  • The kill ratio during the first three weeks of the uprising was about 20 Palestinians to one Israeli.
  • The Israeli response was widely criticized for its excessive use of force and its failure to address the underlying issues of the conflict.

  Introduction

  • Mikhaila Peterson is interviewing David Brog and Norman Finkelstein about the Israel/Palestine conflict.
  • The ratio of Palestinians to Israelis killed was 20 to one when the conflict began.
  • Mikhaila Peterson is a stickler for facts and tries to be objective in her discussion.
  • Hamas chose to focus on establishing an equality of death or corpses rather than human life.
  • Israel exerted massive death and destruction on the Palestinians, destroying huge amounts of land, homes, and incarcerating thousands of Palestinians.

  The Palestinian Authority

  • The Palestinian Authority was set up by Israel after the September 1993 Oslo Accord.
  • The Palestinian Authority was corrupt and self-serving, leading to the Palestinian people's frustration.
  • The Palestinian Authority was seen as Israel's subcontractors, executing Israeli policy.
  • The Palestinian Authority won the elections held in the West Bank and Gaza in 2006.
  • The Palestinian Authority was replaced by Hamas, which focused on establishing an equality of death or corpses.

  Hamas' Strategy

  • Hamas chose to focus on establishing an equality of death or corpses rather than human life.
  • Hamas' strategy was to calculate the efficacy of the strategy they chose.
  • Hamas' strategy was to carry out a pattern of systematic and methodical torture of Palestinian detainees.
  • Hamas' strategy was to exert massive death and destruction on the Palestinians.
  • Hamas' strategy was to destroy huge amounts of land, homes, and incarcerate thousands of Palestinians.

  Conclusion

  • The Israel/Palestine conflict is a complex issue with different perspectives.
  • Mikhaila Peterson tries to be objective in her discussion.
  • The Palestinian Authority was corrupt and self-serving, leading to the Palestinian people's frustration.
  • Hamas' strategy was to calculate the efficacy of the strategy they chose.
  • Hamas' strategy was to exert massive death and destruction on the Palestinians.

  The United States and Israel's Role in the Elections

  • The United States had urged Palestinians, including Hamas, to participate in the election but was not pleased with the results.
  • Former President Jimmy Carter was in the occupied territories to monitor the elections and pronounced them honest and fair.
  • Israel immediately imposed a brutal economic blockade on Gaza after Hamas won the elections.
  • The blockade was supported by the United States and the European Union.
  • Palestinians were never given a chance to participate in the elections, and Hamas was never given a chance to form a government.

  The Palestinian Authority and the United States

  • The preferred Authority of the United States or the preferred figures of the United States were in control of the Palestinian Authority.
  • Hillary Clinton, at the time she was the senator from New York, said the United States made a big mistake by not rigging the election.
  • The Palestinian Authority was formed under the control of the United States or the preferred figures of the United States.
  • The Palestinian Authority was formed after the results of the election were announced.
  • The Palestinian Authority was formed after the United States and Israel were not pleased with the results of the election.

  The Size and Population of Gaza

  • Gaza is five miles wide and 25 miles long, or at least it was until today when it seems it's going to be cut in half again.
  • Gaza is less than a marathon, which is 26.2 miles.
  • Gaza is among the most densely populated places on Earth, with 2.1 million people or 2.2 million people, depending on the source.
  • Gaza is more populated than Tokyo.
  • Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on Earth, with more people per square mile than any other city in the world.

  Israel's Control of Gaza

  • Israel is planning to take control of the northern half of Gaza, which means that the most densely populated place on Earth will now be twice as densely populated.
  • The current bloodshed in Gaza has been going on for 20 years, and nobody has been allowed in or out of the territory for that long, except for the rarest of exceptions.
  • Most of the Palestinians who entered Gaza for the first time were in their 20s, and they had never left the territory before.
  • The current bloodshed in Gaza has been going on for 20 years, and nobody has been allowed in or out of the territory for that long, except for the rarest of exceptions.
  • The current bloodshed in Gaza has been going on for 20 years, and nobody has been allowed in or out of the territory for that long, except for the rarest of exceptions.

  Section 1: Gaza's Unemployment and Poverty

  • Half of Gaza's population has been unemployed for the past 20 years.
  • The unemployment rate rises to 60% when looking at the youth.
  • Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas in the world with nothing else to look forward to.
  • There are no work opportunities or places to go in Gaza.
  • Immigrating to the United States or France is not an option due to Clexit policy.

  Section 2: Gaza as an Open Prison

  • David Tamman, the former British conservative prime minister, described Gaza as an open prison.
  • Ru Kimberling, a respected Israeli sociologist, described Gaza as the world's largest concentration camp.
  • Most of the water in Gaza is undrinkable, labeled severely strong and secure by international humanitarian agencies.
  • Gaza is the largest concentration camp ever, with the most accumulated rage and anger among its population.
  • Half of Gaza comprises children, and the accumulated anger at being trapped and born into the largest concentration camp is immense.

  Section 3: Israel's Plan to Annihilate Gaza

  • Israel is proceeding to annihilate all human life in the northern sector of Gaza.
  • Half of Gaza comprises children, and the accumulated anger at being trapped and born into the largest concentration camp is immense.
  • The moment when the children can exact revenge on October 27 is still not the full picture.
  • Periodically, Israel launches high-tech massacres on Gaza, killing very large numbers of civilians.
  • The reality of the situation is much ghastlier than the picture presented.

  Section 4: Conclusion

  • The situation in Gaza is complex and multifaceted, with many factors contributing to the poverty and unemployment.
  • The description of Gaza as an open prison and the largest concentration camp ever highlights the severity of the situation.
  • Israel's plan to annihilate Gaza and the high-tech massacres on civilians are examples of the violence and aggression that have been ongoing for decades.
  • It is important to understand the full picture of the situation in Gaza and to work towards finding a peaceful solution that addresses the root causes of the conflict.
  • The video provides a valuable insight into the experiences of the people living in Gaza and the challenges they face.

  Section 1: Operation Cast Lead

  • Operation Cast Lead was a military operation conducted by Israel from December 26, 2008 to January 17, 2009.
  • The operation resulted in the deaths of about 1,400 Palestinians, including 350 children.
  • The operation also resulted in the demolition of level, flattened 6,000 homes.
  • The operation was called Operation Cast Lead and was led by Israel.
  • The operation was one of many military operations conducted by Israel in the region.

  Section 2: Gaza and Operation Protective Edge

  • Gaza is a region in the Middle East that is home to the Palestinian people.
  • In 2014, Israel initiated Operation Protective Edge in the Gaza region.
  • The operation resulted in the deaths of about 550 Palestinian children and the demolition of 18,000 homes.
  • The operation was called Operation Protective Edge by the Israelis.
  • The operation was one of many military operations conducted by Israel in the region.

  Section 3: Peter Moer and Gaza

  • Peter Moer is the head of the international Committee of the Red Cross.
  • Moer went to Gaza after Operation Protective Edge and described the destruction as the most massive he had ever seen.
  • Moer said that he had never seen the magnitude of destruction in Gaza, which means that the destruction in Gaza was unprecedented.
  • Moer's statement was based on his personal experience and observation of the destruction in Gaza.
  • Moer's statement was widely reported and discussed in the media and the international community.

  Section 4: Gaza and Human Rights

  • Gaza is a region in the Middle East that is home to the Palestinian people.
  • Gaza is considered by many to be a humanitarian crisis due to the ongoing military operations and blockade of the region.
  • There have been numerous reports of human rights abuses in Gaza, including the use of excessive force by Israeli soldiers and the denial of basic necessities such as water and electricity.
  • Many organizations, including the United Nations, have called for an end to the military operations and blockade of Gaza and for the protection of the human rights of the Palestinian people.
  • The situation in Gaza is complex and multifaceted, and there are different perspectives on the best way to address the crisis.

  The History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

  • The Israel/Palestine conflict is a long-standing dispute between Israel and Palestine over the land and resources in the Middle East.
  • The conflict has its roots in the early 20th century, when Jewish immigrants began to move to the region and established settlements in what was then controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
  • In 1948, Israel declared independence and was recognized by the international community, but this led to the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who were forced to flee their homes.
  • Since then, there have been numerous conflicts and skirmishes between Israel and Palestine, including the Six-Day War in 1967 and the ongoing construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

  The Current Situation

  • Today, the Israel/Palestine conflict remains a highly controversial and emotionally charged issue, with both sides claiming the right to the land and resources in the region.
  • Israel has control over the West Bank and East Jerusalem, while Palestine controls the Gaza Strip.
  • There have been ongoing efforts to negotiate a peace settlement between the two sides, but these efforts have been largely unsuccessful.
  • The situation is further complicated by the presence of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, which are considered illegal under international law.

  The Perspectives of David Brog and Norman Finkelstein

  • David Brog is a pro-Israel advocate and the Executive Director of the American Jewish Committee.
  • He argues that Israel has the right to the land and resources in the region, and that the displacement of Palestinians was a necessary step to establish a Jewish homeland.
  • He also argues that the construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank is not illegal, and that the international community's opposition to these settlements is politically motivated.
  • Norman Finkelstein is a critic of Israel and its policies, and argues that the displacement of Palestinians was a violation of their human rights.
  • He also argues that the construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank is illegal under international law, and that these settlements are a major obstacle to achieving a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

  Mikhaila Peterson's Perspective

  • Mikhaila Peterson, the host of the video, provides her own thoughts on the Israel/Palestine conflict.
  • She acknowledges the complexity of the issue and the different perspectives of both sides.
  • She also acknowledges the human cost of the conflict, and the suffering of both Israelis and Palestinians.
  • She argues that a peaceful resolution to the conflict is necessary, and that both sides need to work together to find a solution.
  • She also acknowledges the role of history and culture in shaping the perspectives of both sides, and the need for greater understanding and empathy between the two communities.

  Section 1: Introduction

  • Mikhaila Peterson is the host of the video.
  • The video is about the Israel/Palestine conflict.
  • The video features two guests, David Brog and Norman Finkelstein, who provide their perspectives on the issue.
  • Mikhaila Peterson speaks to both guests and provides her own thoughts on the topic.
  • The video covers the history of the conflict and the current situation, with a focus on the perspectives of both sides.

  Section 2: The History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

  • The Israel/Palestine conflict has a long and complex history.
  • The conflict began in the early 20th century, when Jewish immigrants began to move to the area that was then controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
  • The area was later divided into two separate states, Israel and Palestine, after the end of World War II.
  • The conflict has since escalated into a complex and ongoing struggle for control of the land and resources.
  • The conflict has been marked by violence, displacement, and human rights abuses on both sides.

  Section 3: The Perspectives of David Brog and Norman Finkelstein

  • David Brog is a pro-Israel advocate who argues that the Jewish people have a historical and religious connection to the land of Israel.
  • He believes that the establishment of the state of Israel was a necessary step in fulfilling the biblical prophecy of the return of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland.
  • He also argues that the Palestinian people have been responsible for their own suffering, citing their rejection of the partition plan and their support for terrorism.
  • Norman Finkelstein is a critic of Israel who argues that the Jewish people have no historical or religious connection to the land of Israel.
  • He believes that the establishment of the state of Israel was a violation of international law and a violation of the rights of the Palestinian people.

  Section 4: Mikhaila Peterson's Perspective

  • Mikhaila Peterson is a lifestyle and diet researcher, and the daughter of Jordan Peterson.
  • She has spoken out about the Israel/Palestine conflict and has expressed her support for a two-state solution.
  • She has also criticized the actions of both Israel and Palestine, arguing that both sides have been responsible for human rights abuses.
  • She has called for a more nuanced and balanced approach to the conflict, one that takes into account the perspectives of all parties involved.
  • She has also expressed her concern about the impact of the conflict on the lives of ordinary people, both in Israel and Palestine.

  The History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict

  • The idea that Jewish people had originally been displaced from the area and were entitled to it in 1948.
  • The UN ruled to give the Jewish people 56% of the land in 1948.
  • The Zionist movement staked a claim to Palestine on many grounds, including the homeland of the Jewish people and the idea that Palestine was empty.
  • The 1947 resolution 181 did not make moral sense of who had title or deed to the land.
  • There are two substantial populations living in the same parcel of land, and the land was unequally divided to accommodate the Jews who would eventually come to Palestine from Europe.

  The Current Situation

  • Hamas is hiding their weapons in civilian areas and the Israelis are targeting those areas.
  • The casualties are because Hamas is hiding behind their civilians.

  David Brog's Perspective

  • David Brog believes that the Jewish people have a historical and religious connection to the land of Israel.
  • He argues that the UN's decision to divide the land unequally was a violation of the Jewish people's rights.
  • He believes that Hamas is responsible for the violence and that Israel has the right to defend itself.

  Norman Finkelstein's Perspective

  • Norman Finkelstein believes that the Jewish people have no historical or religious connection to the land of Israel.
  • He argues that the UN's decision to divide the land unequally was a fair and just one.
  • He believes that Hamas is not responsible for the violence and that Israel's actions are unjustified.

  Section 1: Evidence-based claims

  • Evidence-based claims are more valuable than claims made based on interest.
  • Evidence against interest is given more value than evidence based on interest.
  • Interested parties are not considered in this context.
  • Human rights organizations are the most common place people look for evidence.
  • Evidence from authoritative human rights organizations and UN investigative bodies should be considered.

  Section 2: Human rights organizations

  • Israel has several human rights organizations, such as Betel and the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories.
  • International organizations like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch also operate in Israel.
  • Breaking the Silence is an Israeli reservist organization that documented human rights abuses in Gaza.
  • Most of the witnesses who testified to Breaking the Silence were not leftists or peace activists.
  • The author recommends questioning authority and leaving a corner of the mind open to the possibility that the authority is either dishonest or wrong.

  Section 3: Human shielding

  • There is no evidence that Hamas used Palestinians as human shields.
  • Israel used Palestinians as human shields during the Israeli operations.
  • There is voluminous evidence of Israel's use of human shields.
  • Authoritative human rights organizations and UN investigative bodies have looked at the evidence and found no evidence of human shielding by Hamas.
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