Macklemore ON: How To OVERCOME ADDICTION & Master Your Darkness For SUCCESS | Jay Shetty

Last updated: Jun 1, 2023

The video is an interview with Macklemore about his journey with addiction and how he overcame it to achieve success in his career.

The video is an interview with Macklemore, a multi-platinum and Grammy award-winning artist, conducted by Jay Shetty, the host of the number one Health and Wellness podcast on purpose. Macklemore talks about his journey of overcoming addiction and using his platform to raise awareness around issues of addiction and recovery. He emphasizes the importance of getting back to the core of who he is as a person and an artist, regardless of outside influences, and how it is a daily practice to block out the noise and focus on the creative process. The interview also touches on Macklemore's new singles, "Chant" and "Maniac."

  • Macklemore's addiction started with prescription drugs and he hid it from his loved ones.
  • He hit rock bottom and got sober with the help of a support system.
  • He uses his platform to raise awareness about addiction and mental health.
  • Macklemore found happiness in the creative process and wants to inspire others to do the same.
  • He learned to accept himself and let go of his attachment to success and material things.
  • Macklemore struggled with addiction during the height of his success and turned to drugs to escape.
  • His addiction may have been caused by underlying issues like anxiety and depression.
  • Macklemore went to rehab and found a support system in his family and friends.
  • He realized he needed to find his community again and the people that really know and love him.

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Macklemore's Journey with Addiction

  • Macklemore talks about his journey with addiction and how it started with prescription drugs.
  • He talks about how he was able to hide his addiction from his friends and family.
  • Macklemore shares how he hit rock bottom and realized he needed to make a change.
  • He talks about how he got sober and the importance of having a support system.
  • Macklemore shares how he uses his platform to raise awareness about addiction and recovery.
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Using Art and Platform for a Greater Purpose

  • Macklemore talks about how he uses his art and platform to raise awareness about important issues.
  • He shares how he wants to use his platform to make a positive impact on the world.
  • Macklemore talks about how he wants to use his music to inspire people and make them feel less alone.
  • He shares how he wants to use his platform to break down stigmas around addiction and mental health.
  • Macklemore talks about how he wants to use his platform to promote empathy and understanding.
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Overcoming the Noise and Finding Happiness

  • Macklemore talks about the importance of cutting out the noise and staying true to yourself.
  • He shares how he stopped reading reviews and stopped caring about what other people thought of him.
  • Macklemore talks about how he found happiness and fulfillment in the creative process.
  • He shares how he wants to inspire others to find their own happiness and fulfillment.
  • Macklemore talks about how it's a daily practice to stay true to yourself and block out the noise.
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The Power of Acceptance and Letting Go

  • Macklemore talks about the power of acceptance and letting go of things you can't control.
  • He shares how he's learned to accept himself and his flaws.
  • Macklemore talks about how he's learned to let go of his ego and focus on what's truly important.
  • He shares how he's learned to let go of his attachment to success and focus on the creative process.
  • Macklemore talks about how he's learned to let go of his attachment to material things and focus on what truly matters.
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Macklemore's Struggle with Addiction and Success

  • Macklemore struggled with addiction during the height of his success.
  • He lost track of who he was and what really mattered.
  • He didn't know how to deal with the outside world and turned to drugs to escape.
  • He was scared and fear was a paralyzing force during that time period.
  • He was at the mercy of the critics and the think pieces.
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Macklemore's First Foray into Drugs

  • Macklemore's first experience with drugs was when he was 14 years old.
  • He drank 12 shots of vodka in a 30-minute time period.
  • He loved the way he felt and wanted more.
  • Drugs came along with that, including marijuana and pills.
  • It was the beginning of a very unhealthy relationship with drugs.
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The Reasoning Behind Macklemore's Addiction

  • Macklemore's addiction was like an allergy.
  • Once he had a sip or a hit, he wanted more and couldn't turn it off.
  • He never took two shots and said he was done.
  • He believes there may have been underlying issues that led him to addiction.
  • He struggled with anxiety and depression and used drugs to cope.
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Macklemore's Journey to Recovery

  • Macklemore went to rehab and got sober.
  • He had to learn how to deal with his emotions and the outside world without drugs.
  • He found a support system in his family and friends.
  • He believes that recovery is a lifelong journey and takes it one day at a time.
  • He uses his platform to raise awareness about addiction and recovery.
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Early Trauma and Recovery Community

  • Macklemore had some early trauma that he thinks he wanted to turn off.
  • He found a community of men in recovery who were open about sexual trauma from an early age.
  • He never heard people talk about these things openly in meetings until he found this community.
  • He thinks it might be the reason why he had addiction issues.
  • It's always a collection of things rather than one thing that causes addiction.
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Choosing Recovery

  • Macklemore knew the truth about addiction and that it's an incurable disease.
  • He went back to the roots of what wrote the music that ended up being the heist.
  • He had a home group where he went and had a service position.
  • He had that accountability and sense of community that made him feel a part of something.
  • The disease of addiction leads you to isolation.
  • He realized he needed to find his community again and the people that really know and love him.
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Lowest Point and Finding Another Side to Life

  • Macklemore was at his lowest point internally when he was at his highest point externally.
  • He had already been to rehab and understood that addiction is an incurable disease.
  • He went back to the roots of what wrote the music that ended up being the heist.
  • He had a home group where he went and had a service position.
  • He had that accountability and sense of community that made him feel a part of something.
  • He realized he needed to find his community again and the people that really know and love him.
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Detoxing and Finding Community

  • Macklemore was detoxing from drugs during the Grammys and was still in a place of fear.
  • He won four Grammys and got a pill from somebody at the after party, which was the beginning of another attempt to escape everything.
  • He went to India with his wife and really detoxed.
  • He realized he needed to find his community again and the people that really know and love him.
  • All the external pats on the back from strangers didn't matter.
  • He needed to find the people that share this commonality.
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Macklemore on India and Finding Fulfillment

  • Macklemore loves India because of its spiritual undertone and energy.
  • Traveling throughout India reminded him that material possessions do not lead to happiness.
  • He was able to disconnect from his fame and just be himself in India.
  • Seeing extreme poverty in India and people still being happy and fulfilled was a reminder that fulfillment comes from within.
  • India is a place where it's easy to feel spiritual energy and develop spiritual practices.
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Habits and Practices for Recovery

  • Community is a big pillar in recovery.
  • Service is a massive pillar in recovery, getting outside of self and thinking about other people.
  • Looking inward, doing step work, and figuring out character defects are important.
  • Macklemore is still a newcomer in recovery and feels like he has a lot of work to do.
  • Service is an underestimated habit and ritual that can bring fulfillment and balance to self-care practices.
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The Importance of Service in Society

  • Service is not a common part of society's vocabulary or recommendation for people.
  • Self-care practices can still be self-centered without the balance of service.
  • Service is a way to get outside of self and connect with others.
  • Service is a big pillar in the recovery community.
  • Service can bring balance and fulfillment to self-care practices.
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Benefits of Service

  • Service helps to get outside of self and think about other people.
  • Service can bring balance and fulfillment to self-care practices.
  • Service is a way to connect with others and find community.
  • Service can help to strip down and figure out who you are.
  • Service is a way to develop spiritual practices and habits.
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The Importance of Balancing Self-Improvement and Service

  • Service to others can be as simple as picking up a phone call or listening to someone's story.
  • There is a selfish component to service because it feels good, but it also benefits others.
  • Studies show that supporting a community can make a huge difference in depression.
  • The more you try to serve others, the more you realize you need to work on yourself.
  • Working on yourself and serving others becomes a beautiful cycle.
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The Constant Evolution of Music and Self-Improvement

  • Darkness is always present, and it creates art.
  • Feeling moments of elation and darkness are necessary for creating great music.
  • Depression was not talked about in the past, but now there is more awareness.
  • It is important to channel negative emotions into art.
  • Artists need to constantly evolve and work on themselves to create meaningful music.
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The Role of Vulnerability in Overcoming Addiction

  • Vulnerability is necessary for overcoming addiction.
  • Macklemore's addiction was fueled by a desire to escape reality.
  • He had to confront his emotions and be vulnerable to overcome addiction.
  • Sharing his struggles with addiction through music helped him connect with others.
  • Being vulnerable is a continuous process, and it is important to have a support system.
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The Importance of Finding Purpose and Passion

  • Having a purpose and passion is crucial for overcoming addiction.
  • Macklemore found purpose in music and using his platform to help others.
  • He realized that he could use his struggles with addiction to help others going through similar experiences.
  • Having a purpose and passion gives meaning to life and helps with self-improvement.
  • It is important to find something that brings joy and fulfillment.
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Macklemore's Journey with Depression

  • Macklemore felt depressed for the first time when he left the monastery at 25 going on 26.
  • He didn't admit it to himself at the time because he was scared of what would happen if he did.
  • He was able to locate and admit that he was depressed during that time years later.
  • His monk skills and tools that he learned helped him to overcome depression.
  • Today, he still gets sad and depressive thoughts, but they don't last as long anymore because he found a process and tools of what to do with them.
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Dealing with Negative Thoughts

  • Everyone will have negative, tough, or difficult thoughts because the world is put in such a way that there's constantly conflict and uncertainty.
  • It's what you do with those thoughts that matter.
  • Macklemore has learned skills and tools that allow him to process negative thoughts differently than he would have 10 years ago.
  • He sees negative thoughts as useful insights into what can be changed, transformed, grown, or what work needs to happen.
  • He accepts that as a human, you will always have thoughts, but it's your choice what you want to do with them.
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Getting Through vs. Getting Over

  • Macklemore prefers the language of "getting through" rather than "getting over" something.
  • He believes that society has this idea of you being an addict and now you've recovered, but he doesn't see it that way.
  • He is in recovery, but he doesn't think that he's ever going to be fully recovered.
  • He thinks that it's a process of getting through things and learning how to live with them.
  • He believes that it's important to have a support system and to be able to talk about things.
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The Importance of Self-Care

  • Macklemore believes that self-care is essential for everyone, especially for those who are dealing with addiction or mental health issues.
  • He thinks that it's important to have a routine and to stick to it.
  • He has a morning routine that includes meditation, exercise, and writing.
  • He also thinks that it's important to have hobbies and interests outside of work.
  • He believes that self-care is not selfish, but it's necessary for your well-being.
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Challenges of Addiction

  • The feeling of peace and happiness achieved through drugs is temporary.
  • Trying to hold on to that feeling leads to a lack of practice and challenges in sustaining happiness.
  • Two thoughts that keep people trapped are wanting to hold on to something and wanting to go back to something.
  • These thoughts prevent people from being present and experiencing life.
  • It is important to let go of these thoughts and focus on the present moment.
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Near-Death Experiences

  • Near-death experiences are not always linear and can happen in different ways.
  • Withdrawal from drugs can lead to feelings of hopelessness and no future for happiness.
  • These experiences can be scary and lead to a lack of care for life.
  • It is important to have a support system during these times.
  • Having a purpose in life can help during these experiences.
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Supportive Partner

  • Macklemore's wife has been a supportive figure during his journey with addiction.
  • She has been there for him through the ups and downs and has helped him stay on track.
  • Communication and honesty have been key in their relationship.
  • Macklemore has also tried to support his wife and be there for her during difficult times.
  • Having a supportive partner can make a big difference in overcoming addiction.
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Importance of Self-Care

  • Self-care is important in maintaining sobriety and mental health.
  • Macklemore has found that exercise and being in nature have been helpful for him.
  • It is important to find what works for you and make it a regular part of your routine.
  • Self-care can also include therapy and other forms of mental health support.
  • It is important to prioritize self-care and make it a priority in your life.
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Macklemore's wife and her journey with addiction

  • Macklemore's wife is his best friend and has been with him since 2006.
  • She was supposed to visit him in rehab in 2008 but got arrested on the way there.
  • She has stayed clean and celebrated 14 years of sobriety.
  • Macklemore has tears in his eyes watching her take her coin at a meeting.
  • She holds him accountable and encourages him to stay in recovery.
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The insidious nature of addiction

  • Addiction starts before picking up the first drink or drug.
  • It starts slowly and creeps, escalating over time.
  • Selfishness rises and material possessions don't fulfill the spiritual void.
  • The disease tells lies and gets increasingly loud to lead to self-hatred.
  • Macklemore's wife encourages him to get outside of self and stay accountable.
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The counterintuitive nature of asking for help

  • The disease of addiction tells lies and doesn't want to tell anyone.
  • Macklemore's wife encourages him to be honest and holds him accountable.
  • She has seen enough relapses to know when he's in self-will.
  • She suggests calling his sponsor, going to a meeting, or doing something in his recovery community.
  • Macklemore may be defensive at first, but ultimately knows she is right.
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