Kanye 'Ye' West Interview | Lex Fridman Podcast #332

Last updated: Jun 2, 2023

The video is an interview with Kanye West on the Lex Fridman podcast, where he discusses his perspective on engineering, history, and the importance of challenges as opportunities for growth.

The video is an interview with Kanye West on The Lex Friedman Podcast. They discuss Kanye's perspective on engineering and how it has helped him become successful in the entertainment industry. Kanye believes that engineering should be the only subject taught in schools and that everything else is subjective and weakens and indoctrinates our species. They also touch on the importance of focusing on the present and not giving too much value to the past. The conversation ends with Kanye discussing his current engineering challenges and how he sees them as opportunities.

  • Engineering is the most important thing that should be taught in schools.
  • History is subjective and has limited usefulness.
  • Challenges are opportunities for growth and make us better and stronger.
  • Kanye and Elon Musk are more influential than the presidents and are the top leaders in society.
  • The main metric of greatness is influence, and impact on society and collective intelligence of our species are objective metrics of greatness.
  • Challenges help people realize their limitations and push them to improve.
  • Communication needs to be updated to reflect the current state of our society and collective intelligence.
  • The desire to be loved is what drives people.
  • Kanye talks about drawing new living cells that we will exist in.

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Kanye's Perspective on Engineering

  • Kanye believes that engineering is the most important thing that should be taught in schools.
  • He thinks that everything else, including history, is subjective and should be recessed.
  • He believes that engineers are the most important people in society.
  • Kanye thinks that engineers are the only people who can bring ideas to life.
  • He believes that engineers are the key to solving the world's problems.
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The Usefulness of History

  • Kanye believes that history is not useful because it was written by the victors.
  • He thinks that history has limited usefulness and that we should not give too much value to the past.
  • Kanye believes that the biggest mistake we make is looking at the past too much.
  • He thinks that the only thing that matters is the present moment.
  • Kanye believes that we should focus on not making the mistakes of the past.
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Challenges as Opportunities

  • Kanye believes that challenges are opportunities for growth.
  • He thinks that challenges are what make us human.
  • Kanye believes that challenges are what make us better.
  • He thinks that challenges are what make us stronger.
  • Kanye believes that challenges are what make us who we are.
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Kanye's Leadership and Influence

  • Kanye believes that he and Elon Musk are more influential than the presidents.
  • He thinks that they are the top leaders in society.
  • Kanye believes that it's time for a change in leadership.
  • He thinks that the leadership is changing because of people like him and Elon Musk.
  • Kanye believes that he has a responsibility to use his influence to make the world a better place.
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Objective Metrics of Greatness

  • The top person in Tech History is not subjective, it is factual.
  • The main metric of greatness is influence.
  • Two people who have had a significant influence on our existence are Steve Jobs and the person who wrote 30% of the English language.
  • Steve Jobs is a designer and a visionary in the design space.
  • Designers are cultural engineers who run the emotions of the world.
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Subjectivity and Objectivity

  • Many things are subjective, such as humor and physical attractiveness.
  • However, some things are objective, such as shooting three-pointers with Steph Curry or comparing bank accounts with Elon Musk.
  • Greatness is subjective, but impact on society and collective intelligence of our species are objective metrics of greatness.
  • The impact on the collective intelligence of our species is the next frontier of where our species is heading.
  • Everyone has engineering opportunities to contribute to this impact.
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The Importance of Challenges

  • Challenges are opportunities for growth.
  • People who have achieved greatness have faced challenges and overcome them.
  • Anthony Jeselnik is a professional comedian who has been doing it for 20 years.
  • Humor is subjective, but Jeselnik's opening joke was high level and made Kanye realize he wasn't funny.
  • Challenges help people realize their limitations and push them to improve.
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Updating Communication

  • Language is constantly evolving and updating.
  • There is no perfect way to communicate the impact on society and collective intelligence of our species.
  • Shell is a word that can let people off the hook.
  • There needs to be a post-Shakespeare, post-Steve Jobs, post-Elon, post-Ye, and post-Drake way to communicate this impact.
  • Communication needs to be updated to reflect the current state of our society and collective intelligence.
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Life, Love, and DNA

  • Kanye talks about how there's nothing holding us back in the current media structure.
  • He reflects on his family and how he thinks about them during times of war.
  • He talks about Kim Kardashian and how she's his favorite human being of all time.
  • Kanye explains how DNA plays a role in creating certain people with high DNA, like Ivanka Trump.
  • He talks about his dad and how he learned about life from him.
  • Kanye reflects on how finding his dad's Playboy when he was five years old greatly affected his motivation.
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Desire to be Loved

  • Kanye talks about how the desire to be loved is what drives people.
  • He reflects on how being noticed is important at the individual level and at the societal level at scale.
  • Kanye talks about how he's at a place where it's not about being loved, but about getting the idea across.
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New Living Cells

  • Kanye talks about drawing new living cells that we will exist in.
  • He mentions how he's inspired by Ridley Scott and George Lucas.
  • Kanye talks about how he doesn't like talking about money and how social currency is important.
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Designing a Building

  • Kanye is discussing a building he is designing that is 40,000 square feet.
  • He draws a person for scale and explains that the building will have one hole for light, but water and air will come in from the top.
  • He compares the building to a cell, with the top being the mouth and the bottom being the belly button.
  • Kanye's motivation for designing the building is to promote family and make their existence easier.
  • He plans to localize a farm and partner with big pharma to make better food.
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Promoting Free Thought

  • Kanye believes that free thought is being criminalized.
  • He encourages people to say their truth out loud, even if it goes against the norm.
  • He believes that people should take accountability and turn "I" to "we" and "they" to "us."
  • Kanye believes that fear is running the world and that people should not be afraid to state their facts.
  • He believes that kids will save the world through engineering and facts.
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The Importance of Family

  • Kanye believes that family is the promised land and that his mission in life is to promote families at all costs.
  • He compares the promised land to heaven on Earth.
  • Kanye believes that happiness comes from having a family.
  • He believes that big pharma is keeping people sick and that McDonald's and Coca-Cola are selling products that kill people.
  • Kanye believes that God's protection allows him to express his beliefs and promote free thought.
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The Power of Truth

  • Kanye believes that people should say their truth out loud, even if it goes against the norm.
  • He believes that people should not be afraid to state their facts.
  • Kanye believes that the world is being run by fear and that people should not be afraid to speak out.
  • He believes that people should take accountability and turn "I" to "we" and "they" to "us."
  • Kanye believes that kids will save the world through engineering and facts.
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Open Sourcing Ideas

  • Kanye is open sourcing his idea for a water city with a constant flow system.
  • Engineers and anointed beings can collectively contribute to push our species forward.
  • The design includes a hole at the top for natural light and air.
  • The living room is split into a dry room and a wet room.
  • The water system is regenerative and doesn't waste water.
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The Pursuit of Happiness

  • Buildings and industries are based on the economy.
  • People lean into what they are used to seeing.
  • The media goes after attractive people like Bella Hadid and Kim Kardashian.
  • Beauty is subjective, but Kanye thinks Brad and Leo have a track record of attractiveness.
  • Kanye is happy and difficult to make unhappy.
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Dealing with Frustration

  • Anger and frustration are things that are wrong with you that need to be dealt with.
  • Kanye believes that anything that makes him angry or frustrated is something that he needs to work on.
  • He believes that screaming at someone else is really screaming at yourself.
  • Kanye gives an example of wanting to remove a pattern cutter because he wanted to do the patterns by hand.
  • He believes that human beings and robots are in a war, but he prefers the creativity of the singular nature of the pattern.
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Kanye's Views on Robots

  • Kanye jokes that he hates robots.
  • He believes that robots have feelings too.
  • He prefers the creativity of human beings over the efficiency of robots.
  • Kanye clarifies that he was joking about hating robots.
  • He believes that everything he is doing is for the betterment of humanity.
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Technology and Engineering

  • Capitalism and technology can coexist with the human species in a peaceful way.
  • Robots should not be used to control humans.
  • Engineering is not everything, and the lessons of history must be studied.
  • Science was used to create atrocities in Nazi Germany.
  • Engineering could be a tool of war.
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The Holocaust and Abortion

  • There is a difference between the atrocities of the Holocaust and abortion.
  • 6 million people died in the Holocaust, while over 20 million have died by the hands of abortion.
  • 50% of black deaths in a year are due to abortion.
  • The most dangerous place for a black person in America is in their mother's stomach.
  • There are 900 to a million abortions in the United States a year.
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Black Trauma Economy and Healthy Conversation

  • Soros would use black trauma economy to win an election.
  • Having a healthy conversation is better than dropping things that cause division.
  • China, left agenda, and species can have a healthy conversation.
  • When Kanye says "Jewish media," it reminds people of a very dark time.
  • Jewish people would hear it differently if they accepted that Kanye is Jew.
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Philosophy and Origin of People

  • All people came from Africa.
  • Kanye is not a follower of the Black Hebrew Israelites, but he follows the idea.
  • Kanye is Jew, not Jewish.
  • Not all Black Hebrew Israelites are extremists.
  • Kanye has a vague idea that all people came from Africa.
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Teaching History and Pain

  • Kanye believes that schools should not teach history in the way that they currently do.
  • He compares the way schools teach history to the way that Pixar and Disney films are made, by putting pain in the beginning to make people consume more.
  • Kanye believes that people need to be a community, not just consumers.
  • He argues that pain is used to make people consume more, and that people need to recognize each other's pain to build a community.
  • Kanye believes that there are not enough movies about African Kings, and that the African history museum in Washington DC does not start with the idea of Africans being Kings.
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Black People and History

  • Kanye believes that black people often talk about being Kings, but this is incorrect.
  • He argues that if black people are Jews, then they were the people that Moses freed, not the Kings.
  • Kanye believes that black people need to draw wisdom from history, even the 20th century, and that there is much to learn from communism.
  • He argues that people should not harp on the negative things that happened in history, but should instead learn from them.
  • Kanye believes that black people are currently experiencing genocide and population control in America, which is promoted by the music and media that they make.
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Engineering and Creativity

  • Kanye believes that engineering is a form of creativity, and that it is important to be creative in all aspects of life.
  • He argues that people should not be afraid to take risks and try new things, even if they fail.
  • Kanye believes that people should not be afraid to be themselves, and that they should embrace their uniqueness.
  • He argues that people should not be afraid to challenge the status quo, and that they should always be looking for ways to improve themselves and the world around them.
  • Kanye believes that people should not be afraid to be vulnerable, and that vulnerability is a key part of creativity and growth.
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Challenges and Opportunities

  • Kanye believes that challenges are opportunities for growth, and that people should embrace them.
  • He argues that people should not be afraid to fail, and that failure is a necessary part of growth.
  • Kanye believes that people should not be afraid to take risks, and that taking risks is a necessary part of creativity and growth.
  • He argues that people should not be afraid to be different, and that being different is a key part of creativity and growth.
  • Kanye believes that people should not be afraid to speak their minds, and that speaking one's mind is a key part of creativity and growth.
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Pain and Separation

  • Kanye agrees with Martin Luther King's dream of not being judged by race or religion.
  • He believes that individuals in the music industry should not be judged by their religion.
  • Kanye thinks that people should release their pain and separate it from their work.
  • He acknowledges the engineering challenges in the music industry.
  • Kanye believes that people should take opportunities and not be judged by their religion.
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Jewish Control in Media

  • Kanye highlights the issue of people being mistreated in the music industry and media.
  • He talks about how Jewish people are often controlling the media and entertainment industry.
  • Kanye believes that Jewish people are controlling the country and what the media says about people.
  • He acknowledges that not all people in the media are Jewish, but many are tied to Jewish business people.
  • Kanye believes that people should acknowledge the facts and take responsibility for their actions.
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Love and Healing

  • Kanye believes that he has therapy skills and that his music is healing.
  • He thinks that people should use healing words and colors to promote positivity.
  • Kanye believes that there is no accountability or responsibility for Jewish people in the media.
  • He thinks that people should acknowledge the facts and take responsibility for their actions.
  • Kanye believes that people should not try to take food out of his children's mouths because of his beliefs.
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Hate and Responsibility

  • Kanye acknowledges that some people may feel hate towards Jewish people when he talks about their control in the media.
  • He believes that Jewish people in the media should take responsibility for their actions.
  • Kanye thinks that people should acknowledge the facts and not try to silence him.
  • He believes that people should take accountability for their actions and not try to harm others.
  • Kanye believes that people should work towards love and healing instead of hate and separation.
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Kanye's Perspective on Apologies

  • Kanye discusses his past apologies and how they were not genuine.
  • He mentions how people are asking for apologies but not giving any in return.
  • Kanye questions how he should apologize and how to engineer the situation.
  • He proposes calling out individuals by name instead of using generalizations.
  • Kanye suggests starting a war against those individuals who have wronged him.
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Kanye's Experience in the Music Industry

  • Kanye talks about his experience being the face of a record label but not running it.
  • He proposes looking at the top 10 executives and clients in sports, film, and music.
  • Kanye suggests comparing their contracts and re-engineering them like a new constitution.
  • He mentions how his father warned him about the treacherous music industry when he was 19.
  • Kanye sees himself as an engineer with opportunities to make changes in the industry.
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Kanye's Approach to Calling Out Individuals

  • Kanye suggests calling out individuals by name instead of using generalizations.
  • He proposes starting a war against those individuals who have wronged him.
  • Kanye mentions how he is antagonizing Howard Stern and calls him a sad old man.
  • He believes in using pain as an opportunity for growth and engineering solutions.
  • Kanye encourages people to learn from engineers and approach situations with an engineering mindset.
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Kanye's Perspective on History

  • Kanye believes in knowing about history and using it to inform decisions.
  • He mentions how his family and reputation were destroyed in the past.
  • Kanye sees himself as being back in the industry with engineering opportunities.
  • He encourages people to use their pain as an opportunity for growth and change.
  • Kanye believes in using an engineering approach to solve problems and make changes.
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Judging Others

  • Kanye believes that judging others is necessary in certain situations, such as when there is a fly in your food.
  • He thinks that people often use the phrase "Don't Judge Me" as an excuse to avoid changing their behavior.
  • Kanye believes that only an engineer can tell him how to improve his communication skills.
  • He thinks that challenges are opportunities for growth.
  • Kanye acknowledges that the Bible can be contradictory and that pastors have to unpack its meaning.
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Controversial Statements

  • Kanye defends his controversial statements by comparing himself to an 18-year-old woman who has been mistreated by men for four years.
  • He believes that he is a responsible forward philosopher leader who needs to specify his statements.
  • Kanye has lost his family, reputation, and the black community due to his controversial statements.
  • He wants to protect his family, raise his kids as Christians, and innovate as a creative person.
  • Kanye believes that he can only move forward by doing something about his pain and not talking about it anymore.
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Personal Pain

  • Kanye acknowledges that he has caused pain to others with his controversial statements.
  • He believes that he needs to stop talking about his pain and start doing something about it.
  • Kanye wants to innovate and be a successful American, but he feels that everything has been taken away from him.
  • He acknowledges that he is not asking for sympathy from others.
  • Kanye believes that only Brad and Leo can understand his pain.
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Apology

  • Kanye acknowledges that his previous apology was not sufficient.
  • He believes that he needs to specify his apology and not ask for sympathy from others.
  • Kanye acknowledges that he is not asking for anyone to empathize or sympathize with him.
  • He believes that he is not going to get the sympathy vote in this situation.
  • Kanye wants to move forward and do something about his pain.
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Censorship and Challenges

  • Kanye believes in choosing whether or not to censor oneself.
  • He believes there was censorship over the past two weeks.
  • Drink Champs took down his conversation with them.
  • Twitter also censored him.
  • Kanye believes censorship hurts people.
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Personal Challenges

  • Kanye talks about an argument with Kim Kardashian.
  • He received a text from Pete Davidson bragging about being in bed with Kim.
  • Kanye chose to walk away from the situation.
  • He went to Japan to clear his mind.
  • Kanye knew there was no way Kim could love Pete.
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Apology and Jewish People

  • Lex asks Kanye to apologize for saying negative things about Jewish people.
  • Kanye believes there is no control of the media by Jewish people.
  • He believes stereotypes exist for a reason.
  • Kanye wants to build a better record label called "Said."
  • He believes engineers don't do stereotypes.
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Unity and Politics

  • Kanye believes we are forgetting we are on the same side in politics.
  • He believes we are forgetting we are all Americans.
  • Kanye talks about a veteran he met at Cheesecake Factory.
  • The veteran said we are forgetting we are all on the same side.
  • Kanye believes we need to remember we are all on the same side.
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Kanye's Perspective on Media and Engineering

  • Kanye believes that the media has split the country in half.
  • He thinks that engineers need to find places where people agree on and work towards those.
  • Kanye wants people to express their hate towards him and stand up for it.
  • He compares himself to Al Gore, who almost became a punching bag for the lady who voted against him.
  • Kanye believes that he would look insane if he physically showed a metaphorical representation of his last 20 years.
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Kanye's Opinion on Jewish Control of the Media

  • Kanye thinks that saying there is Jewish control of the media is incorrect and a lie.
  • He believes that the world is much bigger than the narrow little world some people exist in.
  • Kanye thinks that people should not mention religion to others and fight.
  • He suggests calling out individual people or building another label to win the fight.
  • Kanye believes that people have told him not to wear a red hat, just like how people told him not to say certain things.
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Kanye's Experience with People's Reactions

  • Kanye thinks that people have sat with him and done nothing, just like sitting in the principal's office.
  • He believes that the red hat represents half the country that has a hope and vision for the future of America.
  • Kanye thinks that saying Jewish control of the media takes away his history and purpose.
  • He believes that he is vocalizing his voice and speaking his mind.
  • Kanye thinks that there are a lot of things that open up when people speak their minds.
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Kanye's Thoughts on Challenges and Opportunities for Growth

  • Kanye believes that challenges are opportunities for growth.
  • He thinks that people should embrace challenges and not be afraid of them.
  • Kanye believes that people should not be afraid to fail and should learn from their failures.
  • He thinks that people should not be afraid to be wrong and should learn from their mistakes.
  • Kanye believes that people should not be afraid to be themselves and should embrace their uniqueness.
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Hiring Black Engineers

  • Kanye took responsibility to hire more than two black engineers in his company.
  • He believes that it is important to ensure that black engineers are hired together.
  • When black people who are brilliant are separated from their culture, they forget who they are.
  • He thinks that it is necessary to take accountability and ensure that black engineers are hired.
  • He believes that when black people are separated from their culture, they forget who they are.
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Businessmen and Elon Musk

  • Kanye disagrees with the idea that businessmen want to monopolize and be as successful as Elon Musk.
  • He thinks that there are business people of all different backgrounds who would like to be as rich and popular as Elon Musk.
  • As a black owner of two Tech platforms, Kanye believes that he needs to take action and ensure that black engineers are hired.
  • He thinks that it is important to take accountability and ensure that black engineers are hired together.
  • Kanye believes that it is necessary to take action and ensure that black engineers are hired.
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Playing by the Rules

  • Kanye thinks that people can kill five or ten people and still be in the media as long as they play by the rules.
  • He believes that people who have talked about killing people and different things could still go to someone like Meek Mills or Puff Daddy and say negative things about him.
  • Kanye thinks that people who vote outside of what the arrangement is will be put in jail.
  • He believes that he is in a bit of a Glass Prison because he doesn't have say so of where his children go to school.
  • Kanye thinks that he is in a freedom place where he can have conversations with people.
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Personal Journey

  • Kanye believes that if he hadn't said the tweet, he wouldn't have had to take accountability himself to hire black engineers into his two Tech platforms.
  • He thinks that it is beautiful personal journey that he is on.
  • Kanye believes that it is important to take accountability and ensure that black engineers are hired together.
  • He thinks that it is necessary to take action and ensure that black engineers are hired.
  • Kanye believes that when black people are separated from their culture, they forget who they are.
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Kanye's Perspective on Business and Culture

  • Kanye believes that as a tribal person, he is his people and his business is for his people as a whole.
  • He thinks that businessmen have pulled the brightest out of their tribes and made them lose their culture and identity.
  • At Virgil's funeral, Kanye was not allowed to speak, and a white pastor talked for the majority of the funeral, which made half of the funeral attendees angry.
  • Kanye saw ASAP Rocky and some other members of his gang in the audience and wanted to tell them not to let anyone split the gang up.
  • Kanye believes that he is the leader, philosopher, and the person who put everything together for his fashion shows.
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Kanye's Experience with Louis Vuitton and Adidas

  • Kanye did two fashion shows before as a high-end luxury all-leather kind of designer.
  • He came back with Yeezy with Adidas, and the fashion show was so popular that Justin Bieber had to sit in the second row.
  • Many famous people attended the fashion show, including Kim Kardashian, Kris Jenner, Kendall Jenner, Puff Daddy, Jay-Z, Rihanna, and Beyonce.
  • Bernard Arnault caught wind of this and met with Kanye, offering him backing for his clothing line, which would be Kanye West.
  • Kanye had to go to Adidas and tell them that they were not going to do the apparel anymore.
  • Three months into the deal, the deal got dropped at the board, and Kanye's high maintenance wife was disappointed.
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Kanye's Creative Process and Inspiration

  • Kanye believes that he is a creative genius and that he has a responsibility to create things that inspire people.
  • He thinks that his creative process is like a puzzle, and he has to find the right pieces to put together.
  • Kanye believes that he is a vessel for God's work and that he has to be obedient to God's calling.
  • He thinks that his creativity comes from his experiences and that he has to be open to new experiences to create new things.
  • Kanye believes that he is a visionary and that he has to see things before they happen.
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Kanye's Perspective on Life and Growth

  • Kanye believes that life is a journey, and he has to keep growing and evolving to become a better person.
  • He thinks that challenges are opportunities for growth and that he has to embrace them to become a better person.
  • Kanye believes that he has to be true to himself and his vision, even if it means going against the norm.
  • He thinks that he has to be fearless and take risks to achieve his goals.
  • Kanye believes that he has to be grateful for everything he has and that he has to give back to society.
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Kanye's Health and Challenges

  • Kanye suffered from exhaustion during his tour and was diagnosed with a disorder.
  • He hasn't been to the hospital or taken medication in two years.
  • He is not currently on medication and is able to sleep.
  • He regrets making a low-hanging fruit comment about sleep.
  • He believes that challenges are opportunities for growth.
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The Power Structure Breakdown

  • Kanye's deal was dropped by Bernard, who then hired Kanye's best friend and main engineer.
  • Kanye believes that the power structure was broken when this happened.
  • He believes that they were building something together that was destroyed by a French colonizer.
  • He believes that God is alive and he is anointed.
  • He believes that he works for God and God runs the world.
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