Jack Barsky and Jordan Peterson: True Stories from a Soviet Spy

Last updated: Jan 9, 2024

The video is about a conversation between Jordan Peterson and Jack Barsky, a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West. Barsky shares his experiences of living a double life in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter. Peterson discusses the conditions of Barsky's upbringing and how young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia. The video is from Jordan Peterson's podcast, where he interviews guests on various topics.

This video by Jordan B Peterson was published on Jan 8, 2024.
Video length: 01:42:04.

 

The video is about a conversation between Jordan Peterson and Jack Barsky, a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West.

Barsky recounts his experiences in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter. Peterson and Barsky discuss the conditions of Barsky's upbringing and how young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia.

They also discuss the residual communist thinking in East Germany and how it was bought by the masses.

 

  • Jordan Peterson's new tour for 2024 will begin in early February and run through June.
  • Tammy and Jordan Peterson, along with a variety of special guests, will visit 51 cities in the US.
  • Jordan Peterson will use the tour to walk through some of the ideas he has been working on in his forthcoming book, "Who Wrestles with God," which is scheduled to be published in November 2024.
  • Jordan Peterson is looking forward to the tour and is excited to see his fans again.
  • Jack Barsky is a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West while pursuing his degree in chemistry.
  • Barsky recounted his story in a book called "Deep Undercover," which was published in 2017.
  • Barsky's double life in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter were all discussed.
  • Barsky now works for the FBI and serves as a mentor to young people who might be attracted to utopian schemes of intellectual ideologues.
  • Jordan Peterson found Barsky's story to be very interesting and was particularly intrigued by the conditions of his upbringing.
  • Young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia, especially because of the stark difference between the material conditions in the West and compared to the Soviet Union in Eastern Europe.
  • There was some knowledge of the origins of communism, which was a German invention, and Lenin was the one who put it into practice.
  • There was residual communist thinking in East Germany and a lot of refugees went to the Soviet Union and then came back, taking over quickly.
  • The brainwashing from kindergarten on was massive and there was no free market of ideas, making it difficult for people to question the communist ideology.
  • Jordan Peterson used Barsky's story to illustrate the power of propaganda and the importance of being aware of the information being presented to us.
  • The speaker is Jordan Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto.
  • The guest is Jack Barsky, a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West.
  • Barsky shares his experiences of living a double life in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter.
  • Peterson discusses the conditions of Barsky's upbringing and how young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia.
  • The Communists in East Germany focused on the Next Generation, particularly those with a high level of intellect, as they were going to be the leaders of the future.
  • The idea that working for freedom of the oppressed was a powerful motivator was a key part of the Communist propaganda.
  • The Communist Party promised a better future where suffering would be a thing of the past.
  • The Communist Party capitalized on the longing in the human soul for suffering to be dispensed with.
  • The Communist Party made the assumption that anyone who was more talented or owned more was more talented or owned more because of injustice and oppression.
  • It is possible for people to separate their moral impulse to aid the oppressed from their immoral impulse to damn the successful.
  • It is important to recognize that the Communist Party's promise of a better future was built on a foundation of injustice and oppression.
  • It is important to recognize that the Communist Party's promise of a better future was built on a foundation of injustice and oppression.
  • It is important to recognize that the Communist Party's promise of a better future was built on a foundation of injustice and oppression.
  • It is important to recognize that the Communist Party's promise of a better future was built on a foundation of injustice and oppression.
  • The speaker grew up in a country where everyone was equally poor, so he did not understand the concept of poverty as a young child.
  • The speaker did not understand the concept of wealth of the West as it was not tangible and there was nobody to hate.
  • The speaker would have signed up and fought on behalf of the Vietnamese when the war in Vietnam got really bad.
  • The speaker did really well in high school and college and received a national scholarship.
  • The speaker's experiences of living a double life in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter.
  • Joined the elite in his country
  • Received a scholarship that paid him as much as his salary
  • Considered himself intellectually superior
  • Believed he was destined to help others
  • Never had a chance to hate capitalism with vengeance
  • Intellectual pride can lead to condescension
  • It can work in sync with utopian presumptions of communism
  • Overweening pride can be attractive to those celebrated for their intellect
  • It can shrink quickly when one realizes the vastness of the universe
  • It's difficult to avoid arrogance when one's frame of reference is mankind
  • Properly humble individuals should focus on local concerns
  • It's important to recognize one's limitations at a young age
  • One should not attribute to themselves the ability to understand everything about the world
  • It's important to contribute to the greater good without arrogance
  • One should not assume they can bring about a utopia with their own efforts
  • Barsky's love for his infant daughter led him to question his beliefs
  • He realized the dangers of intellectual pride and condescension
  • He abandoned his communist ideals and became a capitalist
  • He learned to appreciate the value of hard work and individual effort
  • He became a successful entrepreneur and businessman

True Stories from a Soviet Spy | Jack Barsky | EP 412 - YouTube

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Jordan Peterson's New Tour for 2024

  • Jordan Peterson's new tour for 2024 will begin in early February and run through June.
  • Tammy and Jordan Peterson, along with a variety of special guests, will visit 51 cities in the US.
  • More information about the tour can be found on Jordan Peterson's website, jordanbpeterson.com, as well as relevant ticketing information.
  • Jordan Peterson will use the tour to walk through some of the ideas he has been working on in his forthcoming book, "Who Wrestles with God," which is scheduled to be published in November 2024.
  • Jordan Peterson is looking forward to the tour and is excited to see his fans again.
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Jack Barsky's Story

  • Jack Barsky is a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West while pursuing his degree in chemistry.
  • Barsky recounted his story in a book called "Deep Undercover," which was published in 2017.
  • Barsky's double life in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter were all discussed.
  • Barsky now works for the FBI and serves as a mentor to young people who might be attracted to utopian schemes of intellectual ideologues.
  • Jordan Peterson found Barsky's story to be very interesting and was particularly intrigued by the conditions of his upbringing.
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Propaganda in Eastern Europe

  • Young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia, especially because of the stark difference between the material conditions in the West and compared to the Soviet Union in Eastern Europe.
  • There was some knowledge of the origins of communism, which was a German invention, and Lenin was the one who put it into practice.
  • There was residual communist thinking in East Germany and a lot of refugees went to the Soviet Union and then came back, taking over quickly.
  • The brainwashing from kindergarten on was massive and there was no free market of ideas, making it difficult for people to question the communist ideology.
  • Jordan Peterson used Barsky's story to illustrate the power of propaganda and the importance of being aware of the information being presented to us.
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True Stories from a Soviet Spy | Jack Barsky | EP 412 - YouTube

Background

  • The speaker is Jordan Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto.
  • The guest is Jack Barsky, a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West.
  • Barsky shares his experiences of living a double life in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter.
  • Peterson discusses the conditions of Barsky's upbringing and how young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia.
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Communist Propaganda

  • The Communists in East Germany focused on the Next Generation, particularly those with a high level of intellect, as they were going to be the leaders of the future.
  • The idea that working for freedom of the oppressed was a powerful motivator was a key part of the Communist propaganda.
  • The Communist Party promised a better future where suffering would be a thing of the past.
  • The Communist Party capitalized on the longing in the human soul for suffering to be dispensed with.
  • The Communist Party made the assumption that anyone who was more talented or owned more was more talented or owned more because of injustice and oppression.
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Separating Moral Impulse

  • It is possible for people to separate their moral impulse to aid the oppressed from their immoral impulse to damn the successful.
  • It is important to recognize that the Communist Party's promise of a better future was built on a foundation of injustice and oppression.
  • It is important to recognize that the Communist Party's promise of a better future was built on a foundation of injustice and oppression.
  • It is important to recognize that the Communist Party's promise of a better future was built on a foundation of injustice and oppression.
  • It is important to recognize that the Communist Party's promise of a better future was built on a foundation of injustice and oppression.
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Personal Experience

  • The speaker grew up in a country where everyone was equally poor, so he did not understand the concept of poverty as a young child.
  • The speaker did not understand the concept of wealth of the West as it was not tangible and there was nobody to hate.
  • The speaker would have signed up and fought on behalf of the Vietnamese when the war in Vietnam got really bad.
  • The speaker did really well in high school and college and received a national scholarship.
  • The speaker's experiences of living a double life in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter.
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Jack Barsky's Background

  • Joined the elite in his country
  • Received a scholarship that paid him as much as his salary
  • Considered himself intellectually superior
  • Believed he was destined to help others
  • Never had a chance to hate capitalism with vengeance
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The Dangers of Intellectual Pride

  • Intellectual pride can lead to condescension
  • It can work in sync with utopian presumptions of communism
  • Overweening pride can be attractive to those celebrated for their intellect
  • It can shrink quickly when one realizes the vastness of the universe
  • It's difficult to avoid arrogance when one's frame of reference is mankind
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The Importance of Humility

  • Properly humble individuals should focus on local concerns
  • It's important to recognize one's limitations at a young age
  • One should not attribute to themselves the ability to understand everything about the world
  • It's important to contribute to the greater good without arrogance
  • One should not assume they can bring about a utopia with their own efforts
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Jack Barsky's Conversion

  • Barsky's love for his infant daughter led him to question his beliefs
  • He realized the dangers of intellectual pride and condescension
  • He abandoned his communist ideals and became a capitalist
  • He learned to appreciate the value of hard work and individual effort
  • He became a successful entrepreneur and businessman
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Background

  • The speaker is a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West.
  • The speaker lived a double life in the US, pretending to be a regular citizen while secretly working for the KGB.
  • The speaker eventually abandoned the Communist utopian intellectual project and converted to Christianity as a result of the love of his infant daughter.
  • The speaker discusses the conditions of his upbringing and how young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia.
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Becoming Elite

  • As soon as someone has pretensions to operating on behalf of something approximating Universal salvation, the probability of inflating one's ego is virtually certain.
  • The working class needs a spokesperson or an organization that speaks on its behalf, and those people were not working class but intellectual elite.
  • In a society that purports to hope to eradicate the economic elite, elites are likely to arise regardless.
  • In East Germany, the economic elites were rapidly replaced by the intellectually pretentious elites.
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Propaganda and Pride

  • The Soviet propaganda was the water in which the speaker swam when he was young and there was no escaping it.
  • Swallowing propaganda and operating successfully within the system appealed to the speaker's pride.
  • There is a metaphorical equivalence between being fed a non-stop diet of propaganda and being in a position of elite status.
  • The combination of these two things allowed the speaker to take inordinate risks and say goodbye to his comfortable life.
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Conclusion

  • The speaker eventually abandoned the Communist utopian intellectual project and converted to Christianity as a result of the love of his infant daughter.
  • The speaker discusses the conditions of his upbringing and how young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia.
  • The speaker points out that even in a society that purports to hope to eradicate the economic elite, elites are likely to arise regardless.
  • The speaker makes the case that the combination of propaganda and pride allowed him to take inordinate risks and say goodbye to his comfortable life.
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Background

  • Jordan Peterson interviews Jack Barsky, a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West.
  • Barsky shares his experiences of living a double life in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter.
  • Peterson discusses the conditions of Barsky's upbringing and how young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia.
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Propaganda and Recruitment

  • Barsky was recruited by the KGB as a university student and was offered a combination of material luxury, excitement of traveling to the West, and the excitement of acting as a double agent.
  • He was told that he was acting only on behalf of the world's oppressed and that this would give him intellectual advantage and status.
  • Young people in Eastern Europe were enticed to swallow propaganda coming from Russia because it offered them a vision of adventure and intellectual advantage.
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Moral Conundrums

  • Barsky had to wrestle with moral conundrums when he was being recruited because his motives were contaminated by his own pride and consumeristic desires.
  • He did not wrestle with lying to his mother because his mother was a very understanding person.
  • If he had had a steady girlfriend or wife at the time, it would have been something to really wrestle with.
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Conclusion

  • Barsky's experiences of living a double life in the US, his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project, and his conversion as a result of the love of his infant daughter show the dangers of propaganda and the importance of moral integrity.
  • The radical leftists are good at offering a vision of adventure as an offering, but they don't offer as well-developed a vision of let's say romantic adventure and so young people languish.
  • The conservatives tend to push back against the utopian presumptions of the left, but they don't offer as well-developed a vision of let's say romantic adventure and so young people languish.
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Jack Barsky's Early Life

  • Barsky grew up in a tough, disciplinarian environment with no emotional ties to his mother.
  • He had no interest in basketball or other hobbies, as everything was focused on his potential adventure as a spy.
  • Barsky was willing to betray his friends and relationships to pursue his goal of becoming a spy.
  • He joined the Communist Party in university, as it was seen as the right thing to do for ambitious individuals.
  • The Communist Party was not a bad thing, but there was some openness and camaraderie among its members.
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Barsky's Studies and Joining the Communist Party

  • Barsky studied chemistry in university and joined the Communist Party because it was seen as the right thing to do.
  • The Communist Party was not a bad thing, but there was some openness and camaraderie among its members.
  • Barsky had no reason to question the system, as he was treated well and had no reason to feel anxious or seek peace and tranquility.
  • The Hallow app offers guided meditations and prayers to help people deepen their spirituality and connect with God.
  • Barsky joined the Communist Party when he was in college and studying sciences.
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Barsky's Moral Rationales

  • Many people believed that Marxism was a scientific discipline and its outcome was not only desirable but inevitable.
  • Barsky had moral rationales for betraying his friends and relationships to pursue his goal of becoming a spy.
  • He accepted the rationale that Marxism was a scientific discipline and that it was the outcome in some ways was not only desirable but inevitable.
  • Everyone made that claim in public, and it was seen as the right thing to do for ambitious individuals.
  • Barsky had no emotional ties to his mother and that would have been the only moral qu he would have stepped into everything.
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Barsky's Decision to Become a Spy

  • Barsky was willing to betray somebody down the road, but at that point that came not into play.
  • He had no interest in basketball or other hobbies, as everything was focused on his potential adventure as a spy.
  • He had no reason to question the system, as he was treated well and had no reason to feel anxious or seek peace and tranquility.
  • The Hallow app offers guided meditations and prayers to help people deepen their spirituality and connect with God.
  • Barsky joined the Communist Party when he was in college and studying sciences.
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How the KGB Found Potential Partners and Allies in Eastern Germany

  • The KGB had access to files on every adult in the country.
  • They recruited students at universities, targeting those who were academically outstanding, party members, and student leaders.
  • One day, a representative from the KGB came to visit the narrator in his dorm room.
  • The representative asked the narrator if he could imagine working for the government after graduation.
  • The narrator gave the representative the answer he was looking for, saying he could work for the government but not as a chemist.
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The Stasi and the KGB

  • The Stasi and the KGB were similar in their methods of operation.
  • The KGB got first dibs on candidates they really wanted.
  • The Stasi was less oppressive and had fewer full-time employees and cooperators compared to the KGB.
  • Family members and friends often spied on each other in East Germany.
  • One in three people in East Germany were informing for the Stasi.
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Family Relationships in East Germany

  • Family relationships in East Germany were fragmented due to the culture of informing.
  • The narrator had a cold relationship with his mother due to the culture of informing.
  • The narrator was unaware of the deep culture of informing in East Germany.
  • The narrator's sense is that the culture of informing was a massive degree.
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The Narrator's Experience with the KGB

  • The narrator was recruited by the KGB after a representative from the KGB came to visit him in his dorm room.
  • The representative asked the narrator if he could imagine working for the government after graduation.
  • The narrator gave the representative the answer he was looking for, saying he could work for the government but not as a chemist.
  • The narrator was invited to have lunch with the representative at the number one restaurant in town.
  • The narrator was hesitant at first but the representative came to his table and introduced him to Herman, who was a Russian and working with the Soviet comrades.
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Background

  • The speaker, Jack Barsky, was a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West.
  • Barsky lived in a bubble and was unaware of the corrupting influence of Communism on the culture at large.
  • He had some exposure to the fate of a fellow student who was expelled from University.
  • His roommate openly confessed to being a Catholic and was a good student.
  • When it came to deciding who would go on for a doctorate, Barsky thought his roommate was a good guy and asked him if he would take up arms to defend the German Democratic Republic.
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Environment and University

  • The speaker found that University was not as stiff and dogmatic with regard to Communism as he had thought.
  • After meeting with Herman, a KGB agent, for six months, he was offered further pursuit.
  • They met in an apartment, where he was given Western literature to read and they talked about what it would be like to go to West Germany as an illegal immigrant.
  • The speaker's situation in life made it possible for him to talk to an older person and share everything with him.
  • He was grateful for the relationship he had with Herman, as he was able to talk to an older man and share his thoughts and feelings.
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Becoming an ARTs

  • The speaker became an ARTs (Agent of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service) after being recruited by the KGB.
  • He was about 10 years older than the speaker and his father was a weak link.
  • The speaker was grateful for the relationship he had with Herman, as he was able to talk to an older person and share everything with him.
  • The speaker's situation in life made it possible for him to talk to an older person and share everything with him.
  • He was grateful for the relationship he had with Herman, as he was able to talk to an older man and share his thoughts and feelings.
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Conclusion

  • The speaker's experiences living in a bubble and being unaware of the corrupting influence of Communism on the culture at large.
  • His exposure to the fate of a fellow student who was expelled from University.
  • His roommate openly confessed to being a Catholic and was a good student.
  • When it came to deciding who would go on for a doctorate, the speaker thought his roommate was a good guy and asked him if he would take up arms to defend the German Democratic Republic.
  • The speaker found that University was not as stiff and dogmatic with regard to Communism as he had thought.
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Background

  • The speaker is a former Soviet spy who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West.
  • The speaker lived a double life in the US, working as a spy while also trying to maintain a normal life.
  • The speaker eventually abandoned the Communist utopian intellectual project and converted to Christianity as a result of the love of his infant daughter.
  • The speaker was influenced by the book "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie.
  • The speaker had a secret relationship with a KGB agent named Herman, who was his liaison for a while.
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Relationship with Herman

  • The speaker's relationship with Herman was a genuine relationship of caring and mentorship.
  • The speaker met only one individual that he interacted with in the KGB who he didn't like, who was an agent in Moscow and became his liaison for a while.
  • The speaker had clandestine meetings with Herman in a car and later in an apartment.
  • The speaker had a secret relationship with Herman, which made him feel elevated and proud.
  • Herman gave the speaker things to do, which were not necessarily comfortable but the speaker was ambitious and didn't allow himself to fail.
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Adventures

  • The speaker's first adventure was going to West Berlin to look around and see the city.
  • The speaker's second adventure was going to Canada for additional training.
  • The speaker had a clandestine meeting with a stranger in a certain spot to exchange keywords and confirm that they were talking to the right person.
  • The speaker was given Western magazines to read in preparation for his departure.
  • The speaker was taken to the Soviet headquarters and Soviet Army headquarters in East Berlin, which was also the KGB headquarters, and met a small man who spoke only Russian and had a phenomenal amount of psychological energy coming at him.
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Conclusion

  • The speaker's experiences living a double life in the US and his eventual abandonment of the Communist utopian intellectual project were influenced by the book "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie.
  • The speaker's relationship with Herman was a genuine relationship of caring and mentorship.
  • The speaker had clandestine meetings with Herman in a car and later in an apartment.
  • The speaker had a secret relationship with Herman, which made him feel elevated and proud.
  • The speaker's first adventure was going to West Berlin to look around and see the city.
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Background

  • The speaker is an academic who was recruited by the KGB to act as a spy in the West.
  • The speaker was trained to make big decisions quickly.
  • The speaker had to decide whether to become a spy or not.
  • The speaker had to make the decision within 24 hours.
  • The speaker's decision was based on his gut feeling.
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Training

  • The speaker was trained to operate with logic.
  • The speaker's logical arguments were not enough to convince the KGB.
  • The speaker's decision was based on his gut feeling.
  • The speaker became an officially cooperating agent.
  • The speaker had to have Soviet citizenship to start a business.
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Working as a Spy

  • The speaker had to have a one-room apartment in a concrete structure.
  • The speaker had to find a place to live in a place where there was a shortage of living space.
  • The speaker had to find a place to live in a place where all living space was controlled by the government.
  • The speaker had to find a place to live in a place where there was an impossible task.
  • The speaker responded the right way and found the worst place he had ever lived in.
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